tinytiger 822 Posted November 25, 2015 Report Share Posted November 25, 2015 I was talking to a well known coursing greyhound man this morning and he tell's me the sad news that they're now going to muzzle greyhounds in open coursing here in Eire. Well that's it now for me. I might never attend another coursing meeting. They've given in to pressure and when greyhounds are breaking their necks because of the muzzle and hares are being ran to a standstill because the dogs can't kill them the anti's will be there with their cameras getting more ammunition for their cause, when in reality it's the stupid muzzles that will be causing the harm. He told me that some of the big clubs will or already have pulled the plug. IMO it's the start of the end for open coursing, the true coursing to a die hard fan. Sad news. a lot of meetings are cancelling as a protest Quote Link to post
low plains drifter 10,260 Posted November 25, 2015 Report Share Posted November 25, 2015 I was talking to a well known coursing greyhound man this morning and he tell's me the sad news that they're now going to muzzle greyhounds in open coursing here in Eire. Well that's it now for me. I might never attend another coursing meeting. They've given in to pressure and when greyhounds are breaking their necks because of the muzzle and hares are being ran to a standstill because the dogs can't kill them the anti's will be there with their cameras getting more ammunition for their cause, when in reality it's the stupid muzzles that will be causing the harm. He told me that some of the big clubs will or already have pulled the plug. IMO it's the start of the end for open coursing, the true coursing to a die hard fan. Sad news. a lot of meetings are cancelling as a protest The antis must be distraught about that 1 Quote Link to post
runem 533 Posted November 25, 2015 Report Share Posted November 25, 2015 Altcar estate 1990, Lydiate fields, when there were hares there!2015-11-24 21.18.29.jpg Not sure of the exact year but i remember the cup was,nt run due to a shortage of hares.....Well it was blamed on poachers one in particular,,,,,i know he used to haunt the area the keepers and police both had him in their radars,Has anyone else heard this tale,i known the gents name just wondered if anyone else heard the same tale..??? Quote Link to post
Leeview 791 Posted November 25, 2015 Report Share Posted November 25, 2015 could that be a the same gent that got a court injunction banning him from a radius around Altcar but the court allowed him to go to the Waterloo Cup Y.I.S Leeview Quote Link to post
nans pat 2,575 Posted November 25, 2015 Report Share Posted November 25, 2015 I was talking to a well known coursing greyhound man this morning and he tell's me the sad news that they're now going to muzzle greyhounds in open coursing here in Eire. Well that's it now for me. I might never attend another coursing meeting. They've given in to pressure and when greyhounds are breaking their necks because of the muzzle and hares are being ran to a standstill because the dogs can't kill them the anti's will be there with their cameras getting more ammunition for their cause, when in reality it's the stupid muzzles that will be causing the harm. He told me that some of the big clubs will or already have pulled the plug. IMO it's the start of the end for open coursing, the true coursing to a die hard fan. Sad news. a lot of meetings are cancelling as a protest good......maybe they will put the hares back were they took them from some without permission, Quote Link to post
neil cooney 10,416 Posted November 25, 2015 Report Share Posted November 25, 2015 (edited) I was talking to a well known coursing greyhound man this morning and he tell's me the sad news that they're now going to muzzle greyhounds in open coursing here in Eire. Well that's it now for me. I might never attend another coursing meeting. They've given in to pressure and when greyhounds are breaking their necks because of the muzzle and hares are being ran to a standstill because the dogs can't kill them the anti's will be there with their cameras getting more ammunition for their cause, when in reality it's the stupid muzzles that will be causing the harm. He told me that some of the big clubs will or already have pulled the plug. IMO it's the start of the end for open coursing, the true coursing to a die hard fan. Sad news. a lot of meetings are cancelling as a protest Glad to see I'm not the only coursing fan opposed to muzzling. What I can't understand is that they're is no immediate threat to coursing at the moment ie. a current bill going through the Dail etc. Yes the anti's are always demanding a complete ban but all their protests in the last few years have targeting park coursing and they have a big issue with hares being injured when pegged by muzzled greyhounds. IMO the threat to open coursing wasn't as big as the threat to park coursing and IMO open coursing is much easier to justify. I feel that the ICC doesn't care about open coursing and has just shot itself in the foot. Edited November 25, 2015 by neil cooney 1 Quote Link to post
Bosun11 537 Posted November 25, 2015 Report Share Posted November 25, 2015 could that be a the same gent that got a court injunction banning him from a radius around Altcar but the court allowed him to go to the Waterloo Cup Y.I.S Leeview I know of a few fellas that could qualify for that title and one or two more that would crow that they are that person but although i've heard a few names banded about over the years, that estate has been run by many, day and night and the two keepers were/are as much use as an ashtray on a motorbike and honed their skills to picking on kids with a ferrets and nets. Quote Link to post
gnipper 6,411 Posted November 25, 2015 Report Share Posted November 25, 2015 could that be a the same gent that got a court injunction banning him from a radius around Altcar but the court allowed him to go to the Waterloo Cup Y.I.S Leeview I know of a few fellas that could qualify for that title and one or two more that would crow that they are that person but although i've heard a few names banded about over the years, that estate has been run by many, day and night and the two keepers were/are as much use as an ashtray on a motorbike and honed their skills to picking on kids with a ferrets and nets. I'm surprised the keepers on there had time to feed the bird's on there between chucking lads off. 1 Quote Link to post
Parabuteos lad 878 Posted November 26, 2015 Report Share Posted November 26, 2015 could that be a the same gent that got a court injunction banning him from a radius around Altcar but the court allowed him to go to the Waterloo Cup Y.I.S Leeview I know of a few fellas that could qualify for that title and one or two more that would crow that they are that person but although i've heard a few names banded about over the years, that estate has been run by many, day and night and the two keepers were/are as much use as an ashtray on a motorbike and honed their skills to picking on kids with a ferrets and nets. Would Sam be one of them? I was over there literally just taking photos of my dog and he came over and chased me when I was about 16 1 Quote Link to post
Parabuteos lad 878 Posted November 26, 2015 Report Share Posted November 26, 2015 (edited) image.jpg haha this my little brother Michael on the vid jumping up and down haha made up spotted that thanks whoever put it up haha atb AT . Edited November 28, 2015 by Parabuteos lad Quote Link to post
Bosun11 537 Posted November 26, 2015 Report Share Posted November 26, 2015 Altcar estate 1990, Lydiate fields, when there were hares there!2015-11-24 21.18.29.jpg who's the nonce looking fella holding the hares Paul ? Dunno but he looks a proper bellend...! Quote Link to post
Leeview 791 Posted November 26, 2015 Report Share Posted November 26, 2015 could that be a the same gent that got a court injunction banning him from a radius around Altcar but the court allowed him to go to the Waterloo Cup Y.I.S Leeview I know of a few fellas that could qualify for that title and one or two more that would crow that they are that person but although i've heard a few names banded about over the years, that estate has been run by many, day and night and the two keepers were/are as much use as an ashtray on a motorbike and honed their skills to picking on kids with a ferrets and nets. back in the 70's early 80's the Waterloo Cup was floundering lets say, it was cut down as they did nt have the entries from owners/trainers the hares were thinner on the ground so would not of been hard to disrupt the cup by running the hares off. It picked up in the mid 80's when 64 people put their hands in their pockets and bought their nomination for the Waterloo Cup,the nominations were or life so you had to literally wait for someone to die to get one, the nomination entitled the person to run a dog in the Cup whether it had won anything or even been slipped behind a hare it did nt matter it was their privilege as a nominator, if they did nt have a runner they returned their nomination(did nt lose it) and you could apply for a returned nomination and the committee weighed up on merit whether it got in to run in the Cup under the nominators nomination Y.I.S Leeview 2 Quote Link to post
the monkey 338 Posted November 26, 2015 Report Share Posted November 26, 2015 happy memories ,the car in the ditch was a classic ....funny . I have probably rubbed shoulders with a lot of hunters on here ..I probably went to 10 years of the waterloo cup ..what a shame its ended. have loads of pictures some where ,hidden away in a drawer some where ..I will have to root them out and scan a couple 2 Quote Link to post
timmy k 590 Posted November 26, 2015 Report Share Posted November 26, 2015 Just watched the piss take poacher vid and it bought back many memories, sort of wish I never watched it cause it reminds me how much I missed it. Crying shame they banned it 1 Quote Link to post
dodger 2,751 Posted November 27, 2015 Report Share Posted November 27, 2015 (edited) Tragic end to an epic event with all walks of life in attendance sharing the same passion, they say it was like bein at an old f a cup final in the early days with the crowds it was that popular.. real sad, good memeries.. Edited November 27, 2015 by dodger Quote Link to post
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