jigsaw 11,899 Posted February 24, 2015 Report Share Posted February 24, 2015 I was told a story by a gent I know here,hes a farmer with substantial land and stock and he sat me down in his kitchen one day and told me this very interesting story of his family history which originated in London,this chap is English as you probably guessed and lives here for over 40 years now. The question I want to ask is ,does anyone know what the letter M stands for in the bond films,his lady boss uses it as her title ? This is a serious question now.He has told me his version of it and as far fetched as it sounds it also is some story. http://jamesbond.wikia.com/wiki/Category:M I looked it up and what he told me is close to the info on the above link in a way....If you can add any more facts or information on it Id like to hear,I will reveal the story he told me after a while and I think you will find it interesting too.Im not sure if the bloke has a hell of an imagination or not,lol.Another thing to add is his wife is related to the Dutchess of York,Sarah Ferguson.Ive seen some photos of her in company with the royal family so this I know to be true..Looking forward to reading the replies on this one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,837 Posted February 24, 2015 Report Share Posted February 24, 2015 Not hard to see the direction that this is going, I'm intrigued to hear the details jiggy! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bosun11 537 Posted February 24, 2015 Report Share Posted February 24, 2015 I've just read through Flemmiings inspiration for M and it mentions Miles Sombodyorother (i've forgotton already!) and it reads that another Mi6 boss signed his letters M but i'm guessing i'm missing the point and the QI buzzer is about to go off for an all too obvious answer.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mackem 28,377 Posted February 24, 2015 Report Share Posted February 24, 2015 Mansfield smith-cumming? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chid 6,645 Posted February 24, 2015 Report Share Posted February 24, 2015 Mother? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brewman 1,192 Posted February 24, 2015 Report Share Posted February 24, 2015 Was it not because when head of MI6 your callsign or nickname is M. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hutch6 550 Posted February 24, 2015 Report Share Posted February 24, 2015 Skyfall shattered the James Bond thing for me. I was always under the impression that "James Bond" was the name assigned to whichever agent became 007, so if John Harris became a spy and was given the agent number 007 then his call name would be James Bond and his real identity kept secret in order to take out the "We'll go after his family then" part. This way of doing things allows the change between Connery, Niven, Moore, Dalton, Brosnan and Craig being so different and yet they still keep the same agent number and call name. In Skyfall when Bond and M go to his childhood home and you see the graves for his parents with their surnames as "Bond" it brought my whole Bond crashing to the ground and I completely lost interest after that bit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mickey Finn 3,052 Posted February 24, 2015 Report Share Posted February 24, 2015 I don't know. I've only just learned that "Q" stands for Quarter Master. ATB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
peterhunter86 8,627 Posted February 24, 2015 Report Share Posted February 24, 2015 Is it really just a w upside down Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tiercel 6,986 Posted February 24, 2015 Report Share Posted February 24, 2015 Apparently Ian Fleming called his mother 'M'. That could be why 'M' rather than another letter was chosen by Fleming? TC Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Flipper_Al 1,012 Posted February 24, 2015 Report Share Posted February 24, 2015 Found this makes interesting reading At which time we the british empire have been called upon to defend itself, its allies and dependancies it became nessacery to form a number of departments and agencies. Over the years these dapartments have served a number of different roles and purposes. in answer to the above question: MI1 Code breaking, MI2 Russia and Scandinavia, MI3 Easton Europe, MI4 Aerial Reconnaissance, MI5 Domestic Intelligence, now The Security Service, MI6 Foreign Intelligence, now the Secret Intelligence service, MI7 Propoganda and censorship, MI8 Signals Intelligence, MI9 Undercover operations supporting POW, MI10 Weapons and technical Analysis, MI11 Field Intelligence, MI12 Military Censorship, MI13 Remains Classified, MI14 German Intelligence, MI15 Aerial Photography, MI16 Scientific Intelligence, MI17 Secretarial section, MI18 Remains Classifed, MI19 Extraction of information from foreign POWs MI20 - MI25 remain Classified. It is important to also remember that most of these where small departments and at the end of world war 2 they were mostly all merged into MI5, MI6, GCHQ and other agencies. most british intelligence agencies still remain classified to the general public x the only reason this information has been released is that these agencies have all now terminated activity and new agencies have replaced them. Captain S.S DG of MI section 25 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jigsaw 11,899 Posted February 24, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2015 very interesting reading,so heres the ''story'' I was told by my farmer friend. In the early 1900's this chaps grandfather had finished school and wanted to join the police force here in Ireland,which at the time were anti republican organisations,(so im told)His parents fobade him to join the force and shortly after the grandfather emigrated to britain,and London town he arrived.He went about joining the royal constabulary and worked his way up the ranks,At this time there were the troubles and battles between the police and republican members,and he told me many attacks on policmens homes /families/buisnesses were frequent and many.The grandfather was in someway posted back in Ireland and undercover to infiltrate the gangs and republican movement,and glean information on their activities and numbers etc.Over time he did his job in excellent manner and sent vital material that over time struck at the heart of the rebels movements,When he returned to London my farmer friend told me he became one of the founder organisers of the M departments,and it was named M after his gallant work and his last name(WHICH STARTED WITH M)???? The grandfather was one the founder members and trained newcommers to the ways of espionage and surveillance work and was awarded some medals for his bravery and stealth work.He told me the M they use in bond films is the first letter of the granfathers last name.......... and i must say I was enthralled listening to this story on a rainy day a few weeks ago.....thats the jist of the tale he told me,his grandfather never returned to Ireland(probably cause he'd have been strung up by the balls if he returned lol)but if its horse shite and made up,it took some fukin thinking to come up with that one what ye reckon,true or not? Im inclined to disbelieve it but if he was along side you,youd see he tells it so very well,with infinite detail that I cannot recall, Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MoChara 1,632 Posted February 24, 2015 Report Share Posted February 24, 2015 (edited) very interesting reading,so heres the ''story'' I was told by my farmer friend. In the early 1900's this chaps grandfather had finished school and wanted to join the police force here in Ireland,which at the time were anti republican organisations,(so im told)His parents fobade him to join the force and shortly after the grandfather emigrated to britain,and London town he arrived.He went about joining the royal constabulary and worked his way up the ranks,At this time there were the troubles and battles between the police and republican members,and he told me many attacks on policmens homes /families/buisnesses were frequent and many.The grandfather was in someway posted back in Ireland and undercover to infiltrate the gangs and republican movement,and glean information on their activities and numbers etc.Over time he did his job in excellent manner and sent vital material that over time struck at the heart of the rebels movements,When he returned to London my farmer friend told me he became one of the founder organisers of the M departments,and it was named M after his gallant work and his last name(WHICH STARTED WITH M)???? The grandfather was one the founder members and trained newcommers to the ways of espionage and surveillance work and was awarded some medals for his bravery and stealth work.He told me the M they use in bond films is the first letter of the granfathers last name.......... and i must say I was enthralled listening to this story on a rainy day a few weeks ago.....thats the jist of the tale he told me,his grandfather never returned to Ireland(probably cause he'd have been strung up by the balls if he returned lol)but if its horse shite and made up,it took some fukin thinking to come up with that one what ye reckon,true or not? Im inclined to disbelieve it but if he was along side you,youd see he tells it so very well,with infinite detail that I cannot recall, No clue if it's true or not but if he'd told me it I'd say I would believe him, even if it was just for the want of it. Wish he lived near me, can't beat a wise old man telling his stories rather they be true or not. Nothing better than passing spare time with older folks with stories to tell, they can open your eyes to all sorts. Edited February 24, 2015 by MoChara 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
socks 32,253 Posted February 24, 2015 Report Share Posted February 24, 2015 MI stands for military intelligence and each number represents a different department ... It was founded around the First World War ... The height of the troubles were 60's and 70's so that blows his story out of the water really ....... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
YOKEL 2,303 Posted February 24, 2015 Report Share Posted February 24, 2015 MI stands for military intelligence and each number represents a different department ... It was founded around the First World War ... The height of the troubles were 60's and 70's so that blows his story out of the water really ....... 1919/1921 war of independence was also known as "the troubles"...but i'll give you military intelligence... Yokel Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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