gnipper 6,426 Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 I've seen a few labs try and course hares over the years but there owners have never been as happy as me ? 3 Quote Link to post
trenchfoot 4,243 Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 I know of a keeper who's 1/4 bull x got over his lab. 2 of the litter stayed on the shoot. both were raised as general shoot/farm dogs. they excelled at driving large blocks of forestry for vermin and were quite handy on the lamp. As gundogs they were not too shabby either. As an all round countrymans dog, the lab x lurcher is worth a punt Quote Link to post
bunnys 1,228 Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 drakeshead labs plenty working the beatsweek in week out and some good trial dogs also,unspoiled breed andplenty about at the mo good grey or fast type coursing hound will get good results maybe something special ,seen a feww in younger days and they had good drive gutsy type lurchersturned there nose up at nought.atb bunnys 2 Quote Link to post
bunnys 1,228 Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 If i was going to create one i would be tempted to use a line bred match dog rather than a greyhound. Wouldn't that make them too slow? Can't see a 1st X Lab X GHound being too fast as it is no atb bunnys 1 Quote Link to post
bunnys 1,228 Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 Nobody got a half x dog at stud? johny the may be one on here aint ta sure but thee can allways ask fella down pub LOL atb bunnys Quote Link to post
bunnys 1,228 Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 i would think for most timing got be right and has usual for me timing neva right ,been offered or given chance of quality broods ,but timing wrong the labs gun dog breeds do seem to chill the nurotic types of hounds and gets thee a animal that one can get the full benefit from ,where has with some traditional types some cana live with.bit a shooting mooching hunt up type long ears waterfowl the working types of gun dog breeds get thee all these plus extras plus labs are known to bne good guards . atb bunnys. 4 Quote Link to post
dogmad riley 1,343 Posted February 22, 2015 Report Share Posted February 22, 2015 FENTON , JESUS CHRIST I think anyone after this cross would have to breed it themselves as trying to find a litter would be like looking for hens teeth... You wouldnt go far wrong with this dog as a starting point.. devastating on the deer Quote Link to post
trenchfoot 4,243 Posted February 22, 2015 Report Share Posted February 22, 2015 FENTON , JESUS CHRIST I think anyone after this cross would have to breed it themselves as trying to find a litter would be like looking for hens teeth... You wouldnt go far wrong with this dog as a starting point.. devastating on the deer even if 1 of them is a flat coated retriever! Now that would throw a racier type lab 1/2x lurcher, if you could find a good worker 1 Quote Link to post
forest of dean redneck 11,543 Posted February 22, 2015 Report Share Posted February 22, 2015 Seen a lab ,had the body of a flat coat,stunning tall lean beast,would been ideal starting point for lurcher x. Quote Link to post
wuyang 513 Posted February 22, 2015 Report Share Posted February 22, 2015 I took a gamble with my first cross springer spaniel x lurcher. I can understand why most people would take a wide birth from such first cross litters when they can go out and get a lurcher x lurcher pup which will end up making more a rounded lurcher....something which I could have done. You can guarantee they won't be as quick/turn as sharply or catch as much if they chased the same amount of quarry, however that's not everything to everyone. I just mooch and don't catch much..... I think it's what kept me keen all these years. Anyway I still want a dog that's got a real drive to hunt.....hence why I went for a gundog cross........ Amount of pet gundogs ive seen in the local area grafting their nuts off while out for a walk with joe blogs while my dogs are just walking on the path. Anyway I think mines about 20-21 inch, is incredibly quick to learn and has that drive to hunt that I was hoping for. I bet she covers twice as much area than my bed/whipxcollie/grey/whip when out. Because I don't have high expectations with regard to chase and catch with her it really does surprise me when she brings something back. Her speciality this season has been squirrels.......bringing quite a few live to hand back....which surprised me. The last few have all been dead saying that and the other day she was standing over one which was still alive. Although she won't have the catch rate of a lurcher x lurcher I reckon she will probably find more game to chase. If somebody had the desire they could potentially create some cracking hunting lurchers using gundogs, Im not sure what would be best to use over a first cross though. Interesting thread. 4 Quote Link to post
mackay 3,330 Posted February 22, 2015 Report Share Posted February 22, 2015 I've always wondered why gundog lurchers aren't more popular and I'm talking about the majority of gundog breeds being used, not just labs. Perhaps it's because the majority of lurcher owners now don't actually look for the traits that were the very essence of a lurcher years ago and now consider speed and a racy build to be the main priorities when considering a lurcher. On the subject of creating/breeding them, it's not that hard if you really wanted to, greyhound broods free to a good home are offered reguarly and many lurchermen now either own gundogs as well or know someone who does and would be willing to produce lurchers from it. I've a working bred golden retriever here from excellent lines who is racier built than his Labrador counterparts, any serious, genuine person with a notion to take this forward is welcome to use him free of charge. 4 Quote Link to post
wuyang 513 Posted February 22, 2015 Report Share Posted February 22, 2015 Very old fella I know who's been a serious hunter all his life and seen plenty of lurchers work said one of the dogs that stood out to him as a rabbiting dog was a combination of Irish setter and whippet. A lady I see every now and again has two english setters, both young and God knows how many generations away from working stock, but by Christ do they cover some ground hunting. 1 Quote Link to post
forest of dean redneck 11,543 Posted February 22, 2015 Report Share Posted February 22, 2015 Seen some nice looking setters,looked into price last year,shat myself and dismissed idea. 1 Quote Link to post
bird 9,872 Posted February 22, 2015 Report Share Posted February 22, 2015 I've always wondered why gundog lurchers aren't more popular and I'm talking about the majority of gundog breeds being used, not just labs. Perhaps it's because the majority of lurcher owners now don't actually look for the traits that were the very essence of a lurcher years ago and now consider speed and a racy build to be the main priorities when considering a lurcher. On the subject of creating/breeding them, it's not that hard if you really wanted to, greyhound broods free to a good home are offered reguarly and many lurchermen now either own gundogs as well or know someone who does and would be willing to produce lurchers from it. I've a working bred golden retriever here from excellent lines who is racier built than his Labrador counterparts, any serious, genuine person with a notion to take this forward is welcome to use him free of charge. sound that mate , put him to nice whippet x grey bitch , make some decent lurches for day+ night, that bit of whippet thin them down a bit Quote Link to post
mackay 3,330 Posted February 22, 2015 Report Share Posted February 22, 2015 Three'ish mate, total working lines and is a working gundog. 1 Quote Link to post
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