Labrador Lurchers.

[flynndog 543]

I guarantee there will be more of them about than you realise with bull crosse's not been from proper bull these days mostly crosses that look like a bull

[greenshank1 407]

This is an interesting cross . Was there not pics in Walsh's lurchers and long dogs of lab greyhound crosses.

 

You need to be careful though as there is a big difference growing between the good working lab strains and the trial strains. With working strains having way better coat , feet and nose and stamina but being chunkier and some of the the trial strains being lighter and leaner , with lighter coat . Most triallers don't work their dogs as it's seen as it unsteadies them until after they are finished trialling.

 

You also need to check the lab has good elbow and hip scores.

[unlacedgecko 1,466]

I agree with greenshank lots of below par labs about . I know a few useful studs but wouldn't know where to start regarding whelping bitch/greyhound

Find a decent coursing dog and you can our it over my lab bitch (providing she does well in France next month).

[unlacedgecko 1,466]

You know I'm a messer, struggle to find time for the two I've got lol.

Compared to the heroes of THL, we are all messers!

[Tozer 385]

I guarantee there will be more of them about than you realise with bull crosse's not been from proper bull these days mostly crosses that look like a bull

 

You can't google a pic of a lab lurcher because all the shelters call bull crosses lab lurchers!

Edited March 9, 2015 by Tozer

[skycat 6,173]

 

Anybody out there seen any pointer lurchers.

I saw one on either dvd " 'rabbitingman 1 or 2" think,,,,,his own dog was collie based called nell, but his mates I think was lurcher/ pointer....

Here you go w uyang, pointer x saluki bull grey

 

I fancy putting that dog over one of my Airedale lurchers; keep the nose, good coat and feet etc, plus biddability.

[trenchfoot 4,243]

 

 

Anybody out there seen any pointer lurchers.

I saw one on either dvd " 'rabbitingman 1 or 2" think,,,,,his own dog was collie based called nell, but his mates I think was lurcher/ pointer....

Here you go w uyang, pointer x saluki bull grey

 

I fancy putting that dog over one of my Airedale lurchers; keep the nose, good coat and feet etc, plus biddability.

 

true but would it level out the structural "failings" of the airedale x? Not looking for an argument Penny, just genuinely interested

[spindolero 1,111]

 

 

Anybody out there seen any pointer lurchers.

I saw one on either dvd " 'rabbitingman 1 or 2" think,,,,,his own dog was collie based called nell, but his mates I think was lurcher/ pointer....

Here you go w uyang, pointer x saluki bull grey

 

I fancy putting that dog over one of my Airedale lurchers; keep the nose, good coat and feet etc, plus biddability.

 

 

i would have expected Airedale xs to have those qualities? if you were looking for a bull or wheaton x to add drive and spite then it would not have surprised me, but genuinely thought the airedale would bring those attributes you mentioned with no help from GWP blood.

[skycat 6,173]

The only 'structural failings' I believe they have is a rather straight stifle joint. At 5 years old they've never had any problems, but they do lack a bit of top speed and take off, the latter of which isn't generally a problem due to their agility and drive.

 

If, and I don't know if I ever intend to breed again, I did want to get a litter, I'm just mulling over what might best retain their qualities, preferably using a good working dog rather than just using one that looked the part on paper. Obviously I wouldn't want to go back to a Saluki type as they're leggy and not too heavy anyway. Just thinking of a knock about hunting dog rather than a specialist.

 

I suppose a 1/4 Airedale, 3/4 Grey would do fine, but where on earth would I find one of them? I do like the Airedale way of thinking, the intelligence, nose and toughness and very easy to live with as well. Would hate to lose that attitude, as an honest hard worker is worth a whole heap of fancy breeding that sounds good.

[spindolero 1,111]

if i could start from scratch and wanted a knock about hunting lurcher i thing GWP X would be my choice mainly because there are decent numbers of them working to a high standard on different game.

[jjbull 38]

Haven't been on here for a while but a mate told me about this thread only lurcher I have at the moment is a lab lurcher he's labxgrey X dhxgh he's about 27" and a solid lump he does lack a little acceleration but nothing to worry about really good prey drive used on rabbits and been in on a couple of other things which he was alright with once he realised what his teeth were for.

He's a solid retriever which you would expect a bit nervous and so I have to be careful introducing him to new people and dogs, hunts up a touch on the lamp but nothing really annoying as far as I'm concerned, doesn't look like an obvious lurcher which is ideal in this day and age.

[darkjack86 33]

My brother has a lab x lurcher, she was never a very bright prospect as a working dog, then at 12 months old developed a genetic thing called 'collapsing lab syndrome', which is pretty much just that, if she gets over excited she falls over and looses all co-ordination for about 5 minutes. lt dosent happen very often but it's unpleasant to watch and renders her useless as a working dog.

 

l'd personally avoid anything with a high lab content.

[jjbull 38]

Never heard of that before and my family has had labs for over 30 years, what causes it

[Allan P 1,150]

It's called exercise induced collapse or EIC it is prevelant in golden retrievers and all colours of Labradors but especially field trial bred types. I had never heard of it either but Google is a wonderful thing.

[Bosun11 537]

With what i'd use a Lab cross for EIC would be the least of its problems...!

 

If we worried about these rare problems that 'could' happen no fecker would ever breed a dog..!