bird 9,864 Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 had a wee banjo/rosita bitch only pushed 26/27ish. Personally like them over 30 and under 40, but like the big man says, if they have big hearts...;-) Yokel and it that make apbt (heart= guts) different to any other breed but not all have it, but a lot do . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
South hams hunter 8,921 Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 hunting is a sport but the inly wins and losses are personal satisfaction so to produce a line of dogs knowing you cant gain from them to me proves far more than producing a line for money Sport has rules and has to be fair.......what are the rules of hunting are they fair ?..... If i ask you to deal with my rat problem i couldnt care less if you are personally satisfied just as long as you get rid of my rats..........animals hunt,are they playing sport as well ? I used to compare hunting with sport it wasnt until i saw true hunters that i realised it was a way of life. For the lads that know lines as I dont have a clue lol, my father was gifted a pup in the mid to late 80s that was supposed to be out of a dog called Neilis to a Patrick bitch or Fitzpatrick not sure which anyway Was these good lines ? Sounds like a sibling to Hammer and Scooby i forget the name of the dam now but she was a Tombstone/Bolio bitch if memory serves me right nothing particularly great came out of it though i might be thinking of a different bitch. suppose it depends on the person hunting Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ratkilla 35 Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 If things were different and you lads had access to quality bull blood and a choice of the stock, what in your opinions would be the qualities you'd look for in a bull to breed lurchers? For me id want a leggy type, a 50lb plus dog, with ability, natural wind, from game dogs and of course sound temperament. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greengrass 201 Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 Not necessarily mate ! ?...a dead game dog is one that takes its death rather than quit...its deadOh no it's not .... Its all got a bit pantomime now...if you think that a deadgame dog isnt a dog thats dead...then you clearly dont know what your talking about...a game dog is one that wont quit at its task no matter what...a deadgame dog dies seeing the job through...historicaly speaking..the clues in the word...'Dead'What about this instance then Brindle, a fella who we went to visit kept a big yard, part of his learning about the dogs he went and worked for the Rebel -Ricky Jones as a general yard boy. Says he saw with his own eyes a dog scratch then keel over and expire there and then, Jones had a vet on hand doing jabs and stuff on pups etc and he managed to get the dog back to life, took it back into the pit where it scratched into another dog in the other corner AND survived to live on, true or not I don't know but don't see that he had any reason to lie about it. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greengrass 201 Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 Sorry about the delay in the above post I had,nt had a look at the thread in a couple of days. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dare 1,103 Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 Not necessarily mate !?...a dead game dog is one that takes its death rather than quit...its deadOh no it's not ....Its all got a bit pantomime now...if you think that a deadgame dog isnt a dog thats dead...then you clearly dont know what your talking about...a game dog is one that wont quit at its task no matter what...a deadgame dog dies seeing the job through...historicaly speaking..the clues in the word...'Dead'What about this instance then Brindle, a fella who we went to visit kept a big yard, part of his learning about the dogs he went and worked for the Rebel -Ricky Jones as a general yard boy. Says he saw with his own eyes a dog scratch then keel over and expire there and then, Jones had a vet on hand doing jabs and stuff on pups etc and he managed to get the dog back to life, took it back into the pit where it scratched into another dog in the other corner AND survived to live on, true or not I don't know but don't see that he had any reason to lie about it. That is what gameness is so the dog would be game? The will too keep going until the end. If it died then its dead game. Posts before seemed to think a dead game dog wasnt useless if its been bred. As if the dogs served its purpose. To me its lack of respect for an animal your asking to give its all and is animal abuse. Im no hard nut but if i was around back in the day and saw it going on we'd be finding out just how game that owner is. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DogFox123 1,379 Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 (edited) Not necessarily mate !?...a dead game dog is one that takes its death rather than quit...its deadOh no it's not ....Its all got a bit pantomime now...if you think that a deadgame dog isnt a dog thats dead...then you clearly dont know what your talking about...a game dog is one that wont quit at its task no matter what...a deadgame dog dies seeing the job through...historicaly speaking..the clues in the word...'Dead'What about this instance then Brindle, a fella who we went to visit kept a big yard, part of his learning about the dogs he went and worked for the Rebel -Ricky Jones as a general yard boy. Says he saw with his own eyes a dog scratch then keel over and expire there and then, Jones had a vet on hand doing jabs and stuff on pups etc and he managed to get the dog back to life, took it back into the pit where it scratched into another dog in the other corner AND survived to live on, true or not I don't know but don't see that he had any reason to lie about it.That is what gameness is so the dog would be game? The will too keep going until the end. If it died then its dead game. Posts before seemed to think a dead game dog wasnt useless if its been bred. As if the dogs served its purpose. To me its lack of respect for an animal your asking to give its all and is animal abuse. Im no hard nut but if i was around back in the day and saw it going on we'd be finding out just how game that owner is.Well obviously you wouldn't be able to handle working Bulldogs back in the day, dogs that have looked like they were taking a hiding have come back from the brink and won. It's the harshest of environments that makes the dogs what they are, the sport is brutal no doubt but IMO no worse than killing Foxes and other animals with dogs. Edited February 21, 2015 by DogFox123 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dare 1,103 Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 Letting a dog die because its been bred and served its purpose is a c**t. Be that working bulldogs or hunting. Its a total lack of respect for the animal your asking to give you its all. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mick1212 389 Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 Nobody who matches a dog wants there dog to die they want to win but sadly some will die Quote Link to post Share on other sites
northern lad 2,292 Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 Not necessarily mate !?...a dead game dog is one that takes its death rather than quit...its deadOh no it's not ....Its all got a bit pantomime now...if you think that a deadgame dog isnt a dog thats dead...then you clearly dont know what your talking about...a game dog is one that wont quit at its task no matter what...a deadgame dog dies seeing the job through...historicaly speaking..the clues in the word...'Dead'What about this instance then Brindle, a fella who we went to visit kept a big yard, part of his learning about the dogs he went and worked for the Rebel -Ricky Jones as a general yard boy. Says he saw with his own eyes a dog scratch then keel over and expire there and then, Jones had a vet on hand doing jabs and stuff on pups etc and he managed to get the dog back to life, took it back into the pit where it scratched into another dog in the other corner AND survived to live on, true or not I don't know but don't see that he had any reason to lie about it.That is what gameness is so the dog would be game? The will too keep going until the end. If it died then its dead game. Posts before seemed to think a dead game dog wasnt useless if its been bred. As if the dogs served its purpose. To me its lack of respect for an animal your asking to give its all and is animal abuse. Im no hard nut but if i was around back in the day and saw it going on we'd be finding out just how game that owner is. Well obviously you wouldn't be able to handle working Bulldogs back in the day, dogs that have looked like they were taking a hiding have come back from the brink and won. It's the harshest of environments that makes the dogs what they are, the sport is brutal no doubt but IMO far less cruel than killing Foxes and other animals with dogs. You think killing foxes and other animals with dogs is far more cruel than two dogs going at it in the pit for an hour...FFS ...Youre on the wrong site bud,,,,deluded 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,025 Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 (edited) What about this instance then Brindle, a fella who we went to visit kept a big yard, part of his learning about the dogs he went and worked for the Rebel -Ricky Jones as a general yard boy. Says he saw with his own eyes a dog scratch then keel over and expire there and then, Jones had a vet on hand doing jabs and stuff on pups etc and he managed to get the dog back to life, took it back into the pit where it scratched into another dog in the other corner AND survived to live on, true or not I don't know but don't see that he had any reason to lie about it. Without wishing to sound unkind the bloke sounds like a f****n idiot !.....So he takes an exceptionally game dog to its death,remarkably gets the dog going again..............and then thinks i know lets go back and scratch him again just to make sure !!! " IF " its a true story.....animals dying and then coming back to life are not exactly every day occurences are they so i hardly think it alters the term dead game Edited February 21, 2015 by gnasher16 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DogFox123 1,379 Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 Not necessarily mate !?...a dead game dog is one that takes its death rather than quit...its deadOh no it's not ....Its all got a bit pantomime now...if you think that a deadgame dog isnt a dog thats dead...then you clearly dont know what your talking about...a game dog is one that wont quit at its task no matter what...a deadgame dog dies seeing the job through...historicaly speaking..the clues in the word...'Dead'What about this instance then Brindle, a fella who we went to visit kept a big yard, part of his learning about the dogs he went and worked for the Rebel -Ricky Jones as a general yard boy. Says he saw with his own eyes a dog scratch then keel over and expire there and then, Jones had a vet on hand doing jabs and stuff on pups etc and he managed to get the dog back to life, took it back into the pit where it scratched into another dog in the other corner AND survived to live on, true or not I don't know but don't see that he had any reason to lie about it.That is what gameness is so the dog would be game? The will too keep going until the end. If it died then its dead game. Posts before seemed to think a dead game dog wasnt useless if its been bred. As if the dogs served its purpose. To me its lack of respect for an animal your asking to give its all and is animal abuse. Im no hard nut but if i was around back in the day and saw it going on we'd be finding out just how game that owner is.Well obviously you wouldn't be able to handle working Bulldogs back in the day, dogs that have looked like they were taking a hiding have come back from the brink and won. It's the harshest of environments that makes the dogs what they are, the sport is brutal no doubt but IMO far less cruel than killing Foxes and other animals with dogs. You think killing foxes and other animals with dogs is far more cruel than two dogs going at it in the pit for an hour...FFS ...Youre on the wrong site bud,,,,deluded Yeah I do and I'm far from deluded, how long did some Fox hunts last?? And don't tell me what site I'm on bud. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dare 1,103 Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 How can you be called dog fox and then come across against hunting? Seems abit strange Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DogFox123 1,379 Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 What about this instance then Brindle, a fella who we went to visit kept a big yard, part of his learning about the dogs he went and worked for the Rebel -Ricky Jones as a general yard boy. Says he saw with his own eyes a dog scratch then keel over and expire there and then, Jones had a vet on hand doing jabs and stuff on pups etc and he managed to get the dog back to life, took it back into the pit where it scratched into another dog in the other corner AND survived to live on, true or not I don't know but don't see that he had any reason to lie about it. Without wishing to sound unkind the bloke sounds like a f****n idiot !.....So he takes an exceptionally game dog to its death,remarkably gets the dog going again..............and then thinks i know lets go back and scratch him again just to make sure !!! " IF " its a true story.....animals dying and then coming back to life are not exactly every day occurences are they so i hardly think it alters the term dead game The Rebel may have been many things but he knew his shit about the dogs that's for sure. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greengrass 201 Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 What about this instance then Brindle, a fella who we went to visit kept a big yard, part of his learning about the dogs he went and worked for the Rebel -Ricky Jones as a general yard boy. Says he saw with his own eyes a dog scratch then keel over and expire there and then, Jones had a vet on hand doing jabs and stuff on pups etc and he managed to get the dog back to life, took it back into the pit where it scratched into another dog in the other corner AND survived to live on, true or not I don't know but don't see that he had any reason to lie about it. Without wishing to sound unkind the bloke sounds like a f****n idiot !.....So he takes an exceptionally game dog to its death,remarkably gets the dog going again..............and then thinks i know lets go back and scratch him again just to make sure !!! " IF " its a true story.....animals dying and then coming back to life are not exactly every day occurences are they so i hardly think it alters the term dead game Not something I,d do Gnasher but different strokes for different folks, by all accounts the Rebel was,nt a very likeable individual, but the fella we stayed with said he spent absolute fortunes on the health care side of his dogs, maybe he was paying with his funny money so he would nt have been to bothered as it was Monopoly money to him. It certainly sounds like the sort of thing he would do. Fella also told us he had a big pond built and filled it with fish, used to sit way above it in a chair twice the size of a tennis umpires seat and blast away with a gun telling everyone what a good fisherman he was lol.Each to there own I suppose 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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