Lucas An Bulldozer

[arcticgun 4,548]

whos wee speky joe ninety on f/b lol

that's somebody's son that smashing young lad gets out plenty

[Silversnake 1,099]

 

 

I don't know much about either dog but that one that got away from the Lucas dog was a mighty hare!

I agree mate, he waited for that dog and gave him the run we crave ,proper test, simple fact is they cant all be killed dog was slipped fair very fair he got beat, Id wager there's a hole there? maybe wrong like? someone know, I know the land its got good hares on Lucas killed two on there and has killed many other hares all over uk too many seen it too deny it, might not like owner or lines it from, but theres no denying he is quality, Bulldozer killed two the same day but never ran a third, maybe he fancied the draw with one left to run than straight draw? again the dog cant be crabbed he quality both owners deserve credit for turning out such good consistent animals the sort we all wish too own, breeding wise who knows theres plenty on ground the future will soon tell us who the better producer n log run, agai a lot will come down to what bitches they serve and who gets the offspring, takes a lot more than good stud dog to make a quality animal, the dogs don't choose who owns them who slips them or how they matched nor do they choose the bitches they go too, nor is anyone forced to use them, so why the crabbing? if you think you got better theres enough ways to prove it without sitting on here slinging insults about someone elses pride n joy, go out sort ya own dog and match them if it means that much, anything else well it looks like sour grapes that keep getting sourer by the year no way to live ya life that imho

You sound like a fair and honest man arcticgun and I hope people can take heed of your wise words.

[Hareydave 1,214]

it would only be sour grapes if it was something you wanted rich I wouldn't have a need for pup of any the two them.there better dogs more suited to my needs in Ireland and if I was into comps an matches they have the tools for the job

[nans pat 2,575]

 

whos wee speky joe ninety on f/b lol

that's somebody's son that smashing young lad gets out plenty

 

hardly a young lad.he my uncle,think your at the wrong shop.

[Quarter bull 240]

Whats the old saying, the strongest live to run another day, an reproduce, cant kill them all or theyd be nothing to reproduce.

[arcticgun 4,548]

 

 

I don't know much about either dog but that one that got away from the Lucas dog was a mighty hare!

I agree mate, he waited for that dog and gave him the run we crave ,proper test, simple fact is they cant all be killed dog was slipped fair very fair he got beat, Id wager there's a hole there? maybe wrong like? someone know, I know the land its got good hares on Lucas killed two on there and has killed many other hares all over uk too many seen it too deny it, might not like owner or lines it from, but theres no denying he is quality, Bulldozer killed two the same day but never ran a third, maybe he fancied the draw with one left to run than straight draw? again the dog cant be crabbed he quality both owners deserve credit for turning out such good consistent animals the sort we all wish too own, breeding wise who knows theres plenty on ground the future will soon tell us who the better producer n log run, agai a lot will come down to what bitches they serve and who gets the offspring, takes a lot more than good stud dog to make a quality animal, the dogs don't choose who owns them who slips them or how they matched nor do they choose the bitches they go too, nor is anyone forced to use them, so why the crabbing? if you think you got better theres enough ways to prove it without sitting on here slinging insults about someone elses pride n joy, go out sort ya own dog and match them if it means that much, anything else well it looks like sour grapes that keep getting sourer by the year no way to live ya life that imho

but how can you compare them, when 1 has won so much and the other won nothing, that's not crabbing it's just a fact, and too say bully looking for a draw is a joke, why didn't he look for a draw against all the dogs he beat in England, other top match dogs that have actually had matches, it's like Chalk & Cheese, there's no comparison.....any man that thinks their is clearly doesn't have a clue about dog.....best of luck with yer dogs lads, only advice I'd have for anyone breeding pups is go too a proven dog, let it be a match winner or producer of match winners....champs not chumps

 

 

Im not the one comparing them mate, I think they both very good dogs, they ran very different by their owners , JB a master slipper keeps his dog 00% right knows game and land he matches on inside out and credit too him, but surely that day against Lucas he could of found another hare to run? maybe not? I know when he was on ropes against Bogwarrior and Bully had a massive slip n run he refused hares for rest of day to get a draw, some lads not feel that right but it his dog and he runs him and makes his own mind up what he slips on, maybe doing the best thing for him and his dog? fair play to um, other fella comes across water runs his dog does ell enough, plenty lads seen it ad they decided to use him as stud or get pups from him, they made the choice not JM, plenty other men do the sales pitch for these dogs I cant ever remember seeing JB on a forum,? but to say Lucas no good is wrong imho he has come to UK and killed plenty of hares in front of loads of lads for a few seasons now, I think that's summat too be proud of meself,

 

the best? who knows personaly I think there's plenty of dogs could give either a fair match or even beat them on their given day, plenty dogs ran in clubs off fair law 100 yards slips on seed no kick ups on plough, plenty that nobodys seen run apart from owners and friends but likes of JB and JM go step further and show their hands

 

to me a good hare killer is just that and should be judged on that, sad too see a good dog judged on one hare cos I doubt theres a dog alive that aint ,missed one or two here and there ??

[arcticgun 4,548]

 

 

whos wee speky joe ninety on f/b lol

that's somebody's son that smashing young lad gets out plenty

 

hardly a young lad.he my uncle,think your at the wrong shop.

 

yea ya be right pal am usually in Tesco when I should be in ASDA no offence

[Stud dog 632]

Thanks to all personal preference I think.

Lucas an bulldozer both best in there own right I favour bulldozer because of the fast full on style as I think he pressures is hare into making its mistake all the best to all the lads an thanks again

[carp777 191]

 

 

I don't know much about either dog but that one that got away from the Lucas dog was a mighty hare!

I agree mate, he waited for that dog and gave him the run we crave ,proper test, simple fact is they cant all be killed dog was slipped fair very fair he got beat, Id wager there's a hole there? maybe wrong like? someone know, I know the land its got good hares on Lucas killed two on there and has killed many other hares all over uk too many seen it too deny it, might not like owner or lines it from, but theres no denying he is quality, Bulldozer killed two the same day but never ran a third, maybe he fancied the draw with one left to run than straight draw? again the dog cant be crabbed he quality both owners deserve credit for turning out such good consistent animals the sort we all wish too own, breeding wise who knows theres plenty on ground the future will soon tell us who the better producer n log run, agai a lot will come down to what bitches they serve and who gets the offspring, takes a lot more than good stud dog to make a quality animal, the dogs don't choose who owns them who slips them or how they matched nor do they choose the bitches they go too, nor is anyone forced to use them, so why the crabbing? if you think you got better theres enough ways to prove it without sitting on here slinging insults about someone elses pride n joy, go out sort ya own dog and match them if it means that much, anything else well it looks like sour grapes that keep getting sourer by the year no way to live ya life that imho

but how can you compare them, when 1 has won so much and the other won nothing, that's not crabbing it's just a fact, and too say bully looking for a draw is a joke, why didn't he look for a draw against all the dogs he beat in England, other top match dogs that have actually had matches, it's like Chalk & Cheese, there's no comparison.....any man that thinks their is clearly doesn't have a clue about dog.....best of luck with yer dogs lads, only advice I'd have for anyone breeding pups is go too a proven dog, let it be a match winner or producer of match winners....champs not chumps

 

I was always a big fan of The Bulldozer he's top class no doubt about it and anyone who say's different knows nothing about dog's in my opinion......I like many others watched that clip of Lucas and to be honest at the time I had plenty to say about it...however in hindsight I just think that that one was probably too good for any dog..Lucas has killed far too many to be anything other than top class he's probably killed more than most of his crabbers dog's put together.....as far as that match between Bully and Lucas goes I think there was some down the road that JB wanted to run but the Lucas team wouldn't let him as the rules were for all to be run on same land.....make of that what you will however early on in the match JB refused at least one on the running ground.....make of that what you will....Now I'm still listening to people saying Bully has never missed in a match well thats Bullshit he missed against Bog !! As far as never losing a match goes well thats nothing to do with the dog thats JB's matchplay and tactic's......the lad just use's tricks and likes to work his opponent into missing by taking them to land where he knows they drop straight into pipes...... making the lad miss ....then driving off to a different spot where they like to take a dog on and slipping Bully and getting his one up.....now I may be getting on a bit but in my opinion that's not a match between the two dog's thats a match between the two owners....on who can be the slyest ......thats nothing to do with the dog's so in my eye's Bully's record in match running means about nothing........JB's record in match running is "great" as he knows all the "trick's" of the trade.....The Bulldozer is probably the best male dog around in my opinion he doesn't need his owners help.....As far as JM and Lucas are concerned what can you say ?? is there a more dedicated man around ?? I know good lad's who have seen Lucas run they all say the same the dog's top class field or fen they also say his owner loves to give him proper long slip's a sportsman........there lie's the difference in my opinion between the two dogs ones owned by a sportsman the other one isn't....

[Jord M 148]

when people match they should slip each others dog or have the same person slip both dogs some 1 who is not matea with either owner

[Jord M 148]

surly it would make it alot fairer

[N/east poacher 85]

Just slip on the hare that gets up, never mind just waiting for the right one

[the duke3 95]

To be fare to jm never heard him calling for matches just let dog do the talkin very good round cover and high prey drive had a few bad injurys and come back and killed morgans ....as far as i know jb n bully said they wud match all comers and did real well in comps great record on runs per catch but they all miss ..good luck to both men

[Tallywacker 262]

Surely one or two out of all these Men who's seen Lucas run have got some decent footage of him! Because the clips iv seen on here and YouTube can't do the dog any justice at all for a dog that's talked about like he is! Based on what iv seen on clips bully looks far superior!!

[Tallywacker 262]

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Edited February 21, 2015 by Tallywacker