DogFox123 1,379 Posted February 15, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2015 I wouldn't say everybody is on them, that would be very unfair to the clean athletes out there but nothing surprises me anymore, look at Lance Armstrong. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
staffs riffraff 1,068 Posted February 15, 2015 Report Share Posted February 15, 2015 if peds werw legal it would be whos got the brst chemist wins at least now theres a chance they can get caught 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,598 Posted February 15, 2015 Report Share Posted February 15, 2015 The Jamaican sprinters who tested positive had the same coach as Bolt,it would be naive to think he was the only clean athlete......personally i think out of that little group Bolt was seen as the poster boy and a worldwide name far too high profile to be caught " cheating "......the damage not just to athletics but to sport in general would of been catastrophic had Bolt tested positive similarly as it was back in the Carl Lewis days.......Lewis years later admitting to juicing as Bolt may well do in years to come. There used to be a company called Balco who were the main Lab that supplied top sportsman not just athletics all sports,they were involved in a big scandal 10 - 12 years ago....to which they claimed at that time 70% of world class athletics competitors were juicing.......and like i say that was 12 years ago !!.......today its a straight forward battle between laboratories and testers.....labs are coming out with drugs every day that are not even on banned substance lists yet so while they can stay one step ahead of the testers top level athletes will continue to get faster and stronger. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DogFox123 1,379 Posted February 16, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2015 The Jamaican sprinters who tested positive had the same coach as Bolt,it would be naive to think he was the only clean athlete......personally i think out of that little group Bolt was seen as the poster boy and a worldwide name far too high profile to be caught " cheating "......the damage not just to athletics but to sport in general would of been catastrophic had Bolt tested positive similarly as it was back in the Carl Lewis days.......Lewis years later admitting to juicing as Bolt may well do in years to come. There used to be a company called Balco who were the main Lab that supplied top sportsman not just athletics all sports,they were involved in a big scandal 10 - 12 years ago....to which they claimed at that time 70% of world class athletics competitors were juicing.......and like i say that was 12 years ago !!.......today its a straight forward battle between laboratories and testers.....labs are coming out with drugs every day that are not even on banned substance lists yet so while they can stay one step ahead of the testers top level athletes will continue to get faster and stronger. Don't forget our very own darling Linford Christie, he used PED's throughout his career. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Quarter bull 240 Posted February 16, 2015 Report Share Posted February 16, 2015 Sports these days is full of cheating b*****ds, money racket, prob a few honest folk still o naturelle, but most sports are rotten to core, jesse james would be spinning in his grave, couldnt trust not ne of them, an there onpy lying to themselves Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,598 Posted February 16, 2015 Report Share Posted February 16, 2015 (edited) Sports these days is full of cheating b*****ds, money racket, prob a few honest folk still o naturelle, but most sports are rotten to core, jesse james would be spinning in his grave, couldnt trust not ne of them, an there onpy lying to themselves I cant see an old american outlaw being on the gear he would of just let his guns do the talking Top level sport is about winning not being honest with yourself,in my opinion somethings only cheating if your opponent isnt doing it.......at the end of the day everything in sport is performance enhanced as long as a game/race/fight starts fair the rest is down to whatever edge can be gained....look at a sport like motor racing they are starting the race with different speed cars how can that be fair ......to me the 100m sprint is pretty much as pure as sport can get so naturally any edge that can be gained will be. Edited February 16, 2015 by gnasher16 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Quarter bull 240 Posted February 16, 2015 Report Share Posted February 16, 2015 Actually the cars are same horsepower, shape etc gnash, thats your op on it mate, but at the end of the day doesnt matter what other athlete or boxer, or whatever does, you know yourself that youve cheated to win, so your lying to yourself an everyone around you, nothing but a big lying cheaying b*****d lol so youve acheived nothing waste of time imo look at armstrong all that for nothing, an he beat cancer, but who cares about him anymore, jmo hey when im fighting im clean might not be world class, but hey I can live with that 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tilimangro 1,013 Posted February 16, 2015 Report Share Posted February 16, 2015 At that level everyone's using Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,598 Posted February 16, 2015 Report Share Posted February 16, 2015 Actually the cars are same horsepower, shape etc gnash, thats your op on it mate, but at the end of the day doesnt matter what other athlete or boxer, or whatever does, you know yourself that youve cheated to win, so your lying to yourself an everyone around you, nothing but a big lying cheaying b*****d lol so youve acheived nothing waste of time imo look at armstrong all that for nothing, an he beat cancer, but who cares about him anymore, jmo hey when im fighting im clean might not be world class, but hey I can live with that If everything about the car is the same and its purely down to skill of the driver then thats fair competition.....but regulation doesnt stop teams trying to gain an edge which technically can be massive differences......define cheating ?.......surely its something against the rules to gain an advantage so if 2 people start a race on juice how are either of them gaining an advantage........it might not sit right with people who are content to merely compete but for those who aspire to reach the top its the reality of world level sport and has been for years........certainly beats jumping in a car to win a marathon like they did in the good honest old days ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,841 Posted February 16, 2015 Report Share Posted February 16, 2015 if im not wrong Bolt was the only one of their 4 x 100m team who hasnt been caught........ Which relay team was that Gnash? Out of interest, I looked at the Olympic relay teams but could only find Asafa Powell who tested for the stimulant Oxilophrine. I can't find anything on the others.... I'm not trying to pull you up on it as such but if it was true it'd be a fairly heavy piece of evidence! Hence why I briefly looked. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DogFox123 1,379 Posted February 16, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2015 if im not wrong Bolt was the only one of their 4 x 100m team who hasnt been caught........ Which relay team was that Gnash? Out of interest, I looked at the Olympic relay teams but could only find Asafa Powell who tested for the stimulant Oxilophrine. I can't find anything on the others.... I'm not trying to pull you up on it as such but if it was true it'd be a fairly heavy piece of evidence! Hence why I briefly looked. The joint second fastest man of all time Yohan Blake also tested positive for stimulant use in 2009. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,841 Posted February 16, 2015 Report Share Posted February 16, 2015 if im not wrong Bolt was the only one of their 4 x 100m team who hasnt been caught........ Which relay team was that Gnash? Out of interest, I looked at the Olympic relay teams but could only find Asafa Powell who tested for the stimulant Oxilophrine. I can't find anything on the others.... I'm not trying to pull you up on it as such but if it was true it'd be a fairly heavy piece of evidence! Hence why I briefly looked. The joint second fastest man of all time Yohan Blake also tested positive for stimulant use in 2009. But have Nesta Carter and Michael Frater? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DogFox123 1,379 Posted February 16, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2015 if im not wrong Bolt was the only one of their 4 x 100m team who hasnt been caught........ Which relay team was that Gnash? Out of interest, I looked at the Olympic relay teams but could only find Asafa Powell who tested for the stimulant Oxilophrine. I can't find anything on the others.... I'm not trying to pull you up on it as such but if it was true it'd be a fairly heavy piece of evidence! Hence why I briefly looked. The joint second fastest man of all time Yohan Blake also tested positive for stimulant use in 2009. But have Nesta Carter and Michael Frater? No I don't think so. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,598 Posted February 16, 2015 Report Share Posted February 16, 2015 if im not wrong Bolt was the only one of their 4 x 100m team who hasnt been caught........ Which relay team was that Gnash? Out of interest, I looked at the Olympic relay teams but could only find Asafa Powell who tested for the stimulant Oxilophrine. I can't find anything on the others.... I'm not trying to pull you up on it as such but if it was true it'd be a fairly heavy piece of evidence! Hence why I briefly looked. You can pull me up all you like chief if im mistaken im mistaken.... without trawling all round the internet i couldnt tell you i just remember having a conversation last year with someone who knew a lot more than i did and that was his take......maybe it wasnt the relay team but the Jamaican sprint team itself as ive just had a quick butchers and the names ive come up with are...... Steve Mullings Yohan Blake Asafa Powell Sherone Simpson Veronica Brown Dominique Blake All Jamaican sprinters who have recently tested positive it would certainly raise eyebrows when you weigh up the whole picture.....a country of 2.5m population suddenly taking over a sport it would be like Greater Manchester suddenly churning out all the worlds best sprinters ok its not actual proof but when you put a lot of different things together it raises suspicion.......Victor Conte who once owned Balco stated it is physically impossible for a human being to run under 9.8 secs without illegal help.....personally id be amazed if of the 8 competitors in a 100m Olympic Final there is 1 clean athlete. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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