King. 215 Posted February 12, 2015 Report Share Posted February 12, 2015 Did Brian Plummer see the future when he practically invented the Plummer terrier. An all rounder that excelled in the ratting and digging game. Plus flushing game ? Link to post
fourlurchers 279 Posted February 12, 2015 Report Share Posted February 12, 2015 eeerrrm maybe Link to post
paulus 26 Posted February 12, 2015 Report Share Posted February 12, 2015 i see dead people Link to post
rob284 1,682 Posted February 12, 2015 Report Share Posted February 12, 2015 Did Brian Plummer see the future when he practically invented the Plummer terrier. An all rounder that excelled in the ratting and digging game. Plus flushing game ? like most terrier breeds. Link to post
marshman 7,758 Posted February 12, 2015 Report Share Posted February 12, 2015 Ego trip something with Hes name on maybe ? 2 Link to post
Flacko 1,755 Posted February 12, 2015 Report Share Posted February 12, 2015 WHAT DID HE SAY ??? Link to post
wirral countryman 2,110 Posted February 13, 2015 Report Share Posted February 13, 2015 (edited) WM Edited February 20, 2015 by wirral countryman 3 Link to post
downsouth 7,372 Posted February 13, 2015 Report Share Posted February 13, 2015 Did Brian Plummer see the future when he practically invented the Plummer terrier. An all rounder that excelled in the ratting and digging game. Plus flushing game ? excelled at ratting and digging? Link to post
Fieldsporthunter 1,864 Posted February 13, 2015 Report Share Posted February 13, 2015 Brian Plummer was after making an all round terrier that could work any quarry, in any situation, above or below ground, instead of having a patt for digging,a border for otter,lakies for mountains and fell work and Russells for rats, he thought 1 terrier that could do all very well would be a good idea,times were changing and maybe he did foresee many of our everyday hunting ways would be banned and a terrier that was easy on the eye with good intelligence may be of use.Back in the 60s and 70s a lot of terriers were only let off the lead to enter an earth or run with the hounds,there were not many that bushed in the manner we do now,in fact there are still many traditional terrier men that still will not let a terrier see anything other than an earth.I spoke to him on this matter a few times and he was after a modern terrier for modern times,why keep 4 terriers when 1 would do them all,we all thought he was a crank with mad idea,s of grandure but he pressed on with it until poor health cut him short and it was jumped on by fools with little or no idea of what terrier work was about,women and men with no experience of terrier work were left to finish his project with mixed results.The idea was a good one but apart from a coat pattern they are no different than a good jack Russell,WM I would take a bad jack russels any day instead of the 2 plummers I once had. 3 Link to post
fireman 10,962 Posted February 13, 2015 Report Share Posted February 13, 2015 What other breeds did the man add to the russel blood, how much of them and in what order. Does anybody know? The real thruth went to the grave with the man but Russell,nuttal patterdale,fox terrier,Bull terrier and beagle were all used and i think he used one of his russell's over a beagle bitch first and the rest is .............. 1 Link to post
bunny tickler 876 Posted February 13, 2015 Report Share Posted February 13, 2015 i remember the first time plumber showed up to us , myself ,dave roberts gary middleton & all the usual suspects was at edgeworth terrier show , we was all haveing a drink & a yarn when this guy appeared with a lovely girl on his arm telling us about a forthcomeing book he was going to write , first thing he did was insult my terriers ,at the time a ex meynel hunt dog named russ with a hard bitten nose & a skinless lower chin plus a terrier bitch with a plastered face by years of fox degs , i had no intension of showing my terriers just there for the craic , either way gary told me to enter them in the russell class , just to say i got first & second class with my dogs really pissed brian off shouting the odds as all his dogs was level bred & mine was mongrels ,, thats the one & only time in 40 years of owning terriers i have ever put my dogs in a ring , after the show plumber came & sat with us in the beer tent , picking everyones brains about digging etc then proceded to write books about the stories told ,, never liked the fella from that day on .aye he writes a good book & good stories made good money too but respect cannot be bought ,it has to be earned 10 Link to post
Cleanspade 3,324 Posted February 13, 2015 Report Share Posted February 13, 2015 What other breeds did the man add to the russel blood, how much of them and in what order. Does anybody know? The real thruth went to the grave with the man but Russell,nuttal patterdale,fox terrier,Bull terrier and beagle were all used and i think he used one of his russell's over a beagle bitch first and the rest is .............. there are two additions of bull. this being the last breed to enter the genepool through the front door. Link to post
jeemes 4,485 Posted February 13, 2015 Report Share Posted February 13, 2015 i remember the first time plumber showed up to us , myself ,dave roberts gary middleton & all the usual suspects was at edgeworth terrier show , we was all haveing a drink & a yarn when this guy appeared with a lovely girl on his arm telling us about a forthcomeing book he was going to write , first thing he did was insult my terriers ,at the time a ex meynel hunt dog named russ with a hard bitten nose & a skinless lower chin plus a terrier bitch with a plastered face by years of fox degs , i had no intension of showing my terriers just there for the craic , either way gary told me to enter them in the russell class , just to say i got first & second class with my dogs really pissed brian off shouting the odds as all his dogs was level bred & mine was mongrels ,, thats the one & only time in 40 years of owning terriers i have ever put my dogs in a ring , after the show plumber came & sat with us in the beer tent , picking everyones brains about digging etc then proceded to write books about the stories told ,, never liked the fella from that day on .aye he writes a good book & good stories made good money too but respect cannot be bought ,it has to be earned well said. Link to post
pengelli 374 Posted February 14, 2015 Report Share Posted February 14, 2015 went to his kennels with a mate for a stud with one of his alsation dogs when he stayed up here in abbington he decried my mates bitch saying that she was no good for breeding with unbeknown to him that the bitch my mate had won or was placed in every show he had took her to my mate duly put him in his place and we left this was when he had said he was going to train king charles spaniels for earth work the man was a headcase and his kennels were filthy 5 Link to post
Squirrel_Basher 17,100 Posted February 14, 2015 Report Share Posted February 14, 2015 From memory the man himself was filthy as were his kennels ,well makeshift kennels anyway but no exscuse for filth .I was 20 when i met him ,at Lowther show if memory is correct .He was full of himselfand goaded one bloke into a rat contest with some serious money riding on it ,£500 which was a huge amount back then . His ground his dogs against a variety of terriers ratting at night only he never showed at the venue ,lol,not that i went . I was very much a green horn when we visited his shit hole and remember him saying one dog was too valuable to work ,something which even then i failed to get my head round and was a talking point all the way home .No-one could ever work the amount of dogs he had there no matter what was said at the time .Earth work was brushed off in conversation that i do remember .Funny how first impressions stick aint it . 3 Link to post
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