hare_n_hounds 157 Posted February 11, 2015 Report Share Posted February 11, 2015 Alright lads, I'm not really a terrier man I've always had lurches mainly but I'm getting a jack pup next weekend she will be 8weeks old! My intention is for her to knock rabbits out for my lurched, odd ratting trip and maybe go to Earth on fox! My question, well first question is how do you go about schooling a pup to bush? My second question is if .i want to work her on rabbits could she also do fox as I've been told that if a dogs used for rabbits it wouldn't be much use to ground ? Thanks in advance Quote Link to post
bryanm45 787 Posted February 11, 2015 Report Share Posted February 11, 2015 If your getting a terrier and not a X and using it too earth you'll be looking for that terrier all the time, when your out bushing it'll go to earth and it can be frustrating time wise. I use mine for bushing but he is such a lump of a dog that he wouldn't get to enter, I started taking him out as a pup praising him if he followed his nose in, the penny dropped when he caught a mixy in a bush, couldn't stop him then. It's nice when it all comes together terrier bushes and runners catch, good luck with whatever you choose mate. 2 Quote Link to post
Hareydave 1,214 Posted February 11, 2015 Report Share Posted February 11, 2015 (edited) get it out ferreting an it bush in it own time,id terrier bitch bushed rabbits the best an dug plenty foxes never once broke through on a rabbit...tho I did hear one that was dug barking at duck it suppose been on camera id like to see it Edited February 11, 2015 by Hareydave 2 Quote Link to post
squab 2,875 Posted February 11, 2015 Report Share Posted February 11, 2015 the obvious answer is to get the pup out to areas you know holding rabbits,early mornings scent still strong on the ground let it find its feet and use its nose,when i started i was trying to get busher to see rabbits enter cover thinking best way to get it following in but in reality you dont want it looking you want it using its nose to follow in on scent and find them. look at some vids willow put up in the section good example of bringing young pups on,as for wanting to dig to it later on f**k knows i discourage mine from showing any interest in entering at a early age not for me i want keep moving on 2 Quote Link to post
matt1979 766 Posted February 12, 2015 Report Share Posted February 12, 2015 Some good advice don't personally think you can mix earth work and bushing too successfully but that's just my experience others may correct me. I discourage anything other than marking at holes as digging is not for me. I wander on my own a lot often in areas I don't know that well and a dog dropping to ground would be a nightmare, unless on my uncles farm and even then digging is a dangerous game. As for training if the pup is breed right then I have found all the terrors we have had have entered cover naturally from a very early age, especially when brought in with a older dog. It's usually Harder to control that enthusiasm generally than get then started atb great fun terrier and lurcher mooching 1 Quote Link to post
hare_n_hounds 157 Posted February 12, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2015 (edited) Thanks lads! Bushing and rats it is then for the jack, maybe in the future at some point I'll look at getting a Lakeland or border for the earth work, always preferred them to to the black dogs although some reckon it's hard to find good working stock of the Lakeland and border nowadays. But for the time being my lurched pup and Russell pup will be more than enough and take up much of my time. Thanks Edited February 12, 2015 by hare_n_hounds 1 Quote Link to post
brenner 773 Posted February 15, 2015 Report Share Posted February 15, 2015 For what its worth mate, i managed to ruin a real promising looking young terrier by letting her hunt with just the runners i own. This little bitch was slowly going through cover on a trail from a very young age. I dont believe she was sickened as she never really toolk stick because she was a handy little size. I do believe she started watching and learning from the lurchers and then stopped bushing and started trying to hunt with them. Ive seen the same thing happen with friends of mine so best advice i could give is to keep getting it out with dogs that are good bushers if that is at all possible as much as u can while it is learning its trade. As im sure you know dogs teach dogs to hunt very naturally. A.t.b 3 Quote Link to post
wi11ow 2,657 Posted February 15, 2015 Report Share Posted February 15, 2015 Alright lads, I'm not really a terrier man I've always had lurches mainly but I'm getting a jack pup next weekend she will be 8weeks old! My intention is for her to knock rabbits out for my lurched, odd ratting trip and maybe go to Earth on fox! My question, well first question is how do you go about schooling a pup to bush? My second question is if .i want to work her on rabbits could she also do fox as I've been told that if a dogs used for rabbits it wouldn't be much use to ground ? Thanks in advance just for me i break all dogs to ferrets thats the first step so then you have a none lose way take the pup ferreting its easy then catch a rabbit pup gets use to the scent as they get older the things drop into place they no the sent around cover is a game and for me i like to use spaniel in the blood allready has the sensory receptors bulit in GOOD LUCK 3 Quote Link to post
Flacko 1,755 Posted February 15, 2015 Report Share Posted February 15, 2015 Willow got it right mate I myself always get dogs used to ferrets and do abit of ferreting best education for them plenty scent round them they pick it up quite quickly atb Flacko 1 Quote Link to post
whipstar 18 Posted March 7, 2015 Report Share Posted March 7, 2015 Like rob67 said get it out around cover what usually holds rabbits it will work it out in its own time try to take it on its own or with experienced bushing dogs until it knows its job then introduce it to working with the runners Quote Link to post
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