Guest tawny Posted November 3, 2007 Report Share Posted November 3, 2007 for close range fox work, what do you think is the best round. .17hmr or a .22wmr aint got a clue myselfe only after addvice Quote Link to post
waz77 15 Posted November 3, 2007 Report Share Posted November 3, 2007 The HMR is very good Tawny,accurate and flat shooting and very fast for a rimfire,i'll show you mine sometime,the rifle that is Quote Link to post
Guest tawny Posted November 3, 2007 Report Share Posted November 3, 2007 The HMR is very good Tawny,accurate and flat shooting and very fast for a rimfire,i'll show you mine sometime,the rifle that is ok wazz bring it down with you next time,but would the wmr be a better choice in the small fields i have down this way, more impact power i would have thought. Quote Link to post
waz77 15 Posted November 3, 2007 Report Share Posted November 3, 2007 I don't have any experiance of the WMR so i cant say but the HMR is a higher velocity round and flatter trajectory,but like you say the WMR would have more striking power being twice as heavy,but neither are ideal for foxes,better with a centre fire round, although ive seen foxes killed cleanly with rimfires ive seen a few not killed at all. Quote Link to post
proper job 1 Posted November 3, 2007 Report Share Posted November 3, 2007 I know its neither of the above, but if your ranges are 100 yds or less, .22 Hornet is ideal. Quote Link to post
TOMY,HMR 0 Posted November 3, 2007 Report Share Posted November 3, 2007 Hi!! Like the others say. The HMR or the WMR are neither appropriate fox calibres. However if like me you have only been granted a maximm calibre of .17HMR then it will do the job out to 100 yards if you can guarantee a precise head shot (lower brain stem). If you can apply for a variation to get a centrefire rifle. Iv herd the .22-250 will cleanly kill foxs out to 400yrds. Hope this helps. Cheers Quote Link to post
SNAP SHOT 194 Posted November 3, 2007 Report Share Posted November 3, 2007 if your target range is in the 100 to 125 yard mark the wmr has the advantage of greater killing power, but at greater distances the .17 hmr comes into its own, with a greater velocity, and greater accuracy, but less killing power. This said the inherint accuracy of the .17hmr will have no problem killing rabbits to 200 yards. In my eyes the greater accuracy and velocity, plus the extended range of the 17hmr make it a better choice in my eyes for any small varmint work. Plus the police will favor the .17 over the wmr due to the fact that there is very little, if no chance of a ricochet....... for fox work only the wmr would be the choice to 100yards in terms of killing power, but both are not dedicated fox rifles........but having said that the hmr will be alot more versatile a weapon, and will still take foxes at 100 yards also, so for sheer versatility the hmr would be the way to go. Quote Link to post
rob reynolds uk 3 Posted November 3, 2007 Report Share Posted November 3, 2007 .22 magnum good for 120yrds before it starts to drop ,seen loads of foxs killed by this round mind you neally all were head shots ..for fox work you really do need some thing bigger to be fair to the fox .. Quote Link to post
Guest tawny Posted November 4, 2007 Report Share Posted November 4, 2007 thanks for your replys. but i still dont now what to go for,all i can say is foxes will be taken well under 100 yrd's so maybe the wmr would be the best calibre for me. any other advice would be helpful Quote Link to post
conor 7 Posted November 4, 2007 Report Share Posted November 4, 2007 (edited) hmr no good for foxing, i shot a good few with my dads wmr and its lovely to 100yds cant compare the two for knock down power Edited November 4, 2007 by conor Quote Link to post
Guest JohnGalway Posted November 4, 2007 Report Share Posted November 4, 2007 You can do a limited comparison of the two calibres here. My advice, for what it's worth, don't buy either calibre for a dedicated foxing rifle. It's a bit like buying a shotgun and expecting every fox to come in under 40 yards, not intended as a dig at all. I would be looking at buying either a .223 or .22-250 for a foxing rifle. Although if you were to intend getting into handloading then .22Hornet, .17REM and .222 would also be viable options IMO. Quote Link to post
Guest tawny Posted November 4, 2007 Report Share Posted November 4, 2007 You can do a limited comparison of the two calibres here. My advice, for what it's worth, don't buy either calibre for a dedicated foxing rifle. It's a bit like buying a shotgun and expecting every fox to come in under 40 yards, not intended as a dig at all. I would be looking at buying either a .223 or .22-250 for a foxing rifle. Although if you were to intend getting into handloading then .22Hornet, .17REM and .222 would also be viable options IMO. thanks for that info john nice one Quote Link to post
Deker 3,478 Posted November 6, 2007 Report Share Posted November 6, 2007 If you are talking close range fox, under 100yards as you suggest, the WMR is the winner every time, (frankly, any suggestions by others on this site saying it is not up to the job only leads me to believe they are here for the ride and don't know anything about shooting), it has the weight, speed, variety of ammo and clout to do the job far better that an HMR. If you want to go out further than 100 yards I would tend to suggest you consider almost any of the .22 centrefires (not an HMR), I would probably suggest the 5.56/.223, its flat and fast, has a lot of ammo choices and is relatively cheap compared to many rounds. Deker Quote Link to post
James@Scarborough 0 Posted November 6, 2007 Report Share Posted November 6, 2007 You may find that home office guidelines state .22 centrefire as a minimum for fox. Quote Link to post
Deker 3,478 Posted November 6, 2007 Report Share Posted November 6, 2007 (edited) You may find that home office guidelines state .22 centrefire as a minimum for fox. I tend to agree with this, and some firearms regions actually suggest the .243, the world has gone mad! Many Firearms regions are happy to accept rimfires for fox though, probably more variations of tools approved for the fox than any other animal. Deker Edited November 6, 2007 by Deker Quote Link to post
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