EDDIE B 3,159 Posted July 11, 2019 Report Share Posted July 11, 2019 On 24/01/2010 at 23:01, Guest NICOLA said: HE BOUGHT SMITHY OFF A LAD FROM FARNBOROUGH HE TOOK IT TO A SHOW UP IN THE PENNINES AND BRIAN NUTTAL ASKED HIM HOW HE WAS BRED AND HE DIDNT NO WHO BRIAN WAS AT THE TIME KEN REPLIED IM TOLD THERE NUTTAL COWEN LINES AND NUTTAL TURNED ROUND TO HIM AND SAID THEY ARNT NUTTAL THERE TO BIG ETC AND THE KEN SAID HOW THE f**k DO U NO THEN HE SAID KOS IM BRIAN NUTTAL THEN WHEN SMITHY STARTED PRODUCING GOOD STUFF NUTTAL TRIED TO THEN CLAIM THE FAME TO SMITHY SAYING HE BRED SMITHY. I COULD GO ON FOR EVA WITH WHAT HE WAS TELLING ME HE WAS A GOOD CRACK 2 Quote Link to post
dillydog 8,462 Posted July 12, 2019 Report Share Posted July 12, 2019 From what I heard it was Paul C who sold the terriers to RE Quote Link to post
dillydog 8,462 Posted July 12, 2019 Report Share Posted July 12, 2019 8 hours ago, Rabbit Hunter said: Why does anyone have anything to do with the man then? I mean he regularly writes for EDRD and it’s editor must know this? They know it's not right 2 Quote Link to post
Black neck 15,848 Posted July 12, 2019 Report Share Posted July 12, 2019 29 minutes ago, dillydog said: From what I heard it was Paul C who sold the terriers to RE I heard that's who bred him Feck knows Quote Link to post
spindolero 1,110 Posted July 12, 2019 Report Share Posted July 12, 2019 10 hours ago, baker boy said: D.H 100% knows all about it DH put Jack on Shovel 2 Quote Link to post
Rabbit Hunter 6,613 Posted July 12, 2019 Report Share Posted July 12, 2019 10 minutes ago, spindolero said: DH put Jack on Shovel So how did they end up there? Was someone looking after them for FS or were they actually taken from his yard? Quote Link to post
dillydog 8,462 Posted July 12, 2019 Report Share Posted July 12, 2019 He was given them to work, he took it upon himself to sell them on, I spoke to Roy many times about it. Roy didn't know they were Franks, he offered them back but Frank never bothered. 2 Quote Link to post
Bosun11 537 Posted July 12, 2019 Report Share Posted July 12, 2019 I thought Dave H done a fair few interviews and then wrote probably the most accurate account of Smithy's breeding in an early EDRD... I know i've read it somewhere? Time dims memory but i can recall reading that he was out of a B&T dog (can't remember reading Cowan though) and PP & CD had him before Gouldy. Quote Link to post
Rat face 1,655 Posted July 12, 2019 Report Share Posted July 12, 2019 Ken’s till alive surly someone could just ask him. Dose any know anyone that dug to dog regular? And if so was the dog worth all the hype, not been funny just a genuine question Quote Link to post
EDDIE B 3,159 Posted July 12, 2019 Report Share Posted July 12, 2019 1 hour ago, Bosun11 said: I thought Dave H done a fair few interviews and then wrote probably the most accurate account of Smithy's breeding in an early EDRD... I know i've read it somewhere? Time dims memory but i can recall reading that he was out of a B&T dog (can't remember reading Cowan though) and PP & CD had him before Gouldy. Was most of the lies told by Gould himself? Here's more headache Quote Link to post
EDDIE B 3,159 Posted July 12, 2019 Report Share Posted July 12, 2019 8 minutes ago, Rat face said: Ken’s till alive surly someone could just ask him. Dose any know anyone that dug to dog regular? And if so was the dog worth all the hype, not been funny just a genuine question You could ask him, but he won't be able to give you a real answer i feel. Maybe he wasnt too worried about the breeding until the dog became infamous, and then there were claims from all over the place. Maybe some shouted louder than others, and the truth was lost within the lies. 1 Quote Link to post
Rabbit Hunter 6,613 Posted July 12, 2019 Report Share Posted July 12, 2019 Didriksen has photos of Smithy as a young dog in his book, also records of the dog’s DOB etc, I think it’s pretty much accepted that he bred him. 3 Quote Link to post
dillydog 8,462 Posted July 12, 2019 Report Share Posted July 12, 2019 26 minutes ago, Rat face said: Ken’s till alive surly someone could just ask him. Dose any know anyone that dug to dog regular? And if so was the dog worth all the hype, not been funny just a genuine question You'd be the first person in the history of terriers to get an accurate pedigree off Ken.........ask him again tomorrow you'll get a different one 2 4 Quote Link to post
dillydog 8,462 Posted July 12, 2019 Report Share Posted July 12, 2019 Nuttall bitch x Cowan terrier, Colin wrote the article to put the record straight 1 Quote Link to post
dillydog 8,462 Posted July 12, 2019 Report Share Posted July 12, 2019 25 minutes ago, EDDIE B said: Was most of the lies told by Gould himself? Here's more headache You lost me as soon as I got to "working terrier expert and Plummer" 2 5 Quote Link to post
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