Smithy?

[EDDIE B 3,162]

On 24/01/2010 at 23:01, Guest NICOLA said:

 HE BOUGHT SMITHY OFF A LAD FROM FARNBOROUGH HE TOOK IT TO A SHOW UP IN THE PENNINES AND BRIAN NUTTAL ASKED HIM HOW HE WAS BRED AND HE DIDNT NO WHO BRIAN WAS AT THE TIME KEN REPLIED IM TOLD THERE NUTTAL COWEN LINES AND NUTTAL TURNED ROUND TO HIM AND SAID THEY ARNT NUTTAL THERE TO BIG ETC AND THE KEN SAID HOW THE f**k DO U NO THEN HE SAID KOS IM BRIAN NUTTAL THEN WHEN SMITHY STARTED PRODUCING GOOD STUFF NUTTAL TRIED TO THEN CLAIM THE FAME TO SMITHY SAYING HE BRED SMITHY. I COULD GO ON FOR EVA WITH WHAT HE WAS TELLING ME HE WAS A GOOD CRACK

 

[dillydog 8,463]

From what I heard it was Paul C who sold the terriers to RE

[dillydog 8,463]

8 hours ago, Rabbit Hunter said:

Why does anyone have anything to do with the man then? I mean he regularly writes for EDRD and it’s editor must know this?

They know it's not right

[Black neck 15,875]

29 minutes ago, dillydog said:

From what I heard it was Paul C who sold the terriers to RE

I heard that's who bred him

Feck knows

[spindolero 1,111]

10 hours ago, baker boy said:

D.H 100% knows all about it

DH put Jack on Shovel

[Rabbit Hunter 6,613]

10 minutes ago, spindolero said:

DH put Jack on Shovel

So how did they end up there? Was someone looking after them for FS or were they actually taken from his yard?

[dillydog 8,463]

He  was given them to work,  he took it upon himself to sell them on, I spoke to Roy many times about it. Roy didn't know they were Franks,  he offered them back but Frank never bothered. 

 

[Bosun11 537]

I thought Dave H done a fair few interviews and then wrote probably the most accurate account of Smithy's breeding in an early EDRD... I know i've read it somewhere?

Time dims memory but i can recall reading that he was out of a B&T dog (can't remember reading Cowan though) and PP & CD had him before Gouldy.

[Rat face 1,655]

Ken’s till alive surly someone could just ask him. Dose any know anyone that dug to dog regular? And if so was the dog worth all the hype, not been funny just a genuine question 

[EDDIE B 3,162]

1 hour ago, Bosun11 said:

I thought Dave H done a fair few interviews and then wrote probably the most accurate account of Smithy's breeding in an early EDRD... I know i've read it somewhere?

Time dims memory but i can recall reading that he was out of a B&T dog (can't remember reading Cowan though) and PP & CD had him before Gouldy.

Was most of the lies told by Gould himself? Here's more headache

[EDDIE B 3,162]

8 minutes ago, Rat face said:

Ken’s till alive surly someone could just ask him. Dose any know anyone that dug to dog regular? And if so was the dog worth all the hype, not been funny just a genuine question 

You could ask him, but he won't be able to give you a real answer i feel. Maybe he wasnt too worried about the breeding until the dog became infamous, and then there were claims from all over the place. Maybe some shouted louder than others, and the truth was lost within the lies. 

 

[Rabbit Hunter 6,613]

Didriksen has photos of Smithy as a young dog in his book, also records of the dog’s  DOB etc, I think it’s pretty much accepted that he bred him.

[dillydog 8,463]

26 minutes ago, Rat face said:

Ken’s till alive surly someone could just ask him. Dose any know anyone that dug to dog regular? And if so was the dog worth all the hype, not been funny just a genuine question 

You'd be the first person in the history of terriers to get an accurate pedigree off Ken.........ask him again tomorrow you'll get a different one 

[dillydog 8,463]

Nuttall bitch x Cowan terrier, Colin wrote the article to put the record straight

[dillydog 8,463]

25 minutes ago, EDDIE B said:

Was most of the lies told by Gould himself? Here's more headache

You lost me as soon as I got to "working terrier expert and Plummer"