villaman 9,982 Posted February 4, 2015 Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 You really need to experiment with a variety of pellet weights and headsizes in .22 to find the one that suits your rifle's barrel and FPE hairy biker. The trouble with air rifles is that they do not always happily shoot any type of pellet weight you might think would be of advantage to accuracy. What gun do you have? This might help the other lads suggest a particular pellet they know of, that works well with your type/make/model of air rifle. ATB Simon I've just purchased a hw100 I've heard some argue that heavier pellets do well on PCP and lighter in springers (or the other way around...hahahaha), but dont quote me on that. btw, lighter pellets are more screwed in crosswinds, something else to think about and another reason why a little extra weight helps in the practical field sense way. If you're hunting, you need to think about a lot more in this sense This is not quite try depends on BC of the pellet and a lighter pellet is not in the air as long . Test have been done which shows a .177 pellet takes less wind than a .22 Test have been done to show the opposite as well. When there is a controversy, the math can help (less mass in a lighter pellet). My understanding is Crosswinds are a problem, but shooting into or away from the wind is OK. I'm not saying lighter pellets do not have merit. I use them myself, but I also find mid-weight pellets to be the best of all worlds, in a .22, for hunting. The stopping power is visible and noticiable between 16gr and 14gr. Coupled to high accuracy, you can be sure of clean kills with a mid-gr pellet. I've been doing some ballistic / trajectory tests with heavy pellets in a .22 (18 and 19gr). I dont recommend those in sub 12ft-lbs guns for .22, but they are quite good in .177. You can with light pellet , like I said before it all about shot placement with the best pellet for your gun ,whether its a light or heavy pellet 3 Quote Link to post
hairy biker 14 Posted February 4, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 I managed to accuire half a tin of h@n ftt earlier for free from my local gun shop. I zero'd indoors at 14 yards and got a good grouping.wether the grouping will be worse at 25-28 yards remains to be seen Quote Link to post
Dr B 186 Posted February 4, 2015 Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 Villaman If you read what I'm saying, you will see I am, mainly agreeing with you. But you cant argue with physics. Quote Link to post
hairy biker 14 Posted February 4, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 You really need to experiment with a variety of pellet weights and headsizes in .22 to find the one that suits your rifle's barrel and FPE hairy biker. The trouble with air rifles is that they do not always happily shoot any type of pellet weight you might think would be of advantage to accuracy. What gun do you have? This might help the other lads suggest a particular pellet they know of, that works well with your type/make/model of air rifle. ATB Simon I've just purchased a hw100 I've heard some argue that heavier pellets do well on PCP and lighter in springers (or the other way around...hahahaha), but dont quote me on that. btw, lighter pellets are more screwed in crosswinds, something else to think about and another reason why a little extra weight helps in the practical field sense way. If you're hunting, you need to think about a lot more in this sense This is not quite try depends on BC of the pellet and a lighter pellet is not in the air as long . Test have been done which shows a .177 pellet takes less wind than a .22 Test have been done to show the opposite as well. When there is a controversy, the math can help (less mass in a lighter pellet). My understanding is Crosswinds are a problem, but shooting into or away from the wind is OK. I'm not saying lighter pellets do not have merit. I use them myself, but I also find mid-weight pellets to be the best of all worlds, in a .22, for hunting. The stopping power is visible and noticiable between 16gr and 14gr. Coupled to high accuracy, you can be sure of clean kills with a mid-gr pellet. I've been doing some ballistic / trajectory tests with heavy pellets in a .22 (18 and 19gr). I dont recommend those in sub 12ft-lbs guns for .22, but they are quite good in .177. You can with light pellet , like I said before it all about shot placement with the best pellet for your gun ,whether its a light or heavy pellet Shot placement is always my main goal and so it should be Quote Link to post
jamesS410 106 Posted February 4, 2015 Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 You really need to experiment with a variety of pellet weights and headsizes in .22 to find the one that suits your rifle's barrel and FPE hairy biker. The trouble with air rifles is that they do not always happily shoot any type of pellet weight you might think would be of advantage to accuracy. What gun do you have? This might help the other lads suggest a particular pellet they know of, that works well with your type/make/model of air rifle. ATB Simon I've just purchased a hw100 I've heard some argue that heavier pellets do well on PCP and lighter in springers (or the other way around...hahahaha), but dont quote me on that. btw, lighter pellets are more screwed in crosswinds, something else to think about and another reason why a little extra weight helps in the practical field sense way. If you're hunting, you need to think about a lot more in this sense This is not quite try depends on BC of the pellet and a lighter pellet is not in the air as long . Test have been done which shows a .177 pellet takes less wind than a .22 Test have been done to show the opposite as well. When there is a controversy, the math can help (less mass in a lighter pellet). My understanding is Crosswinds are a problem, but shooting into or away from the wind is OK. I'm not saying lighter pellets do not have merit. I use them myself, but I also find mid-weight pellets to be the best of all worlds, in a .22, for hunting. The stopping power is visible and noticiable between 16gr and 14gr. Coupled to high accuracy, you can be sure of clean kills with a mid-gr pellet. I've been doing some ballistic / trajectory tests with heavy pellets in a .22 (18 and 19gr). I dont recommend those in sub 12ft-lbs guns for .22, but they are quite good in .177. You can with light pellet , like I said before it all about shot placement with the best pellet for your gun ,whether its a light or heavy pellet Couldn't agree more. Any issue with a particular pellet lacking in killing ability is more likely down to poor shot placement rather than any particular characteristic of that pellet be it shape, weight or calibre. The ability of the shooter to put the pellet in the right place is king, end of! 3 Quote Link to post
Dr B 186 Posted February 4, 2015 Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 (edited) No one is arguing against placement or accuracy, dear god, someone take the time to read....please.....To argue that BC is not important is wreckless advice IMO. It all needs to be considered, thats the only point. but BC plays its role (no more no less). Edited February 4, 2015 by Dr B Quote Link to post
Craig Fosse 286 Posted February 4, 2015 Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 On another note anyone used exact heavies in .177 and how much they affect trajectory? 1 Quote Link to post
villaman 9,982 Posted February 4, 2015 Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 On another note anyone used exact heavies in .177 and how much they affect trajectory? Yes mate I use them in my .177 ultra and a very good pellet and not to much drop ether , even at 50 + yards . All my .177 guns like them ,give them a go 1 Quote Link to post
Craig Fosse 286 Posted February 4, 2015 Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 I will do mate, once I get the 200's reg running right I will put some threw cheers! Quote Link to post
villaman 9,982 Posted February 4, 2015 Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 No one is arguing against placement or accuracy, dear god, someone take the time to read....please.....To argue that BC is not important is wreckless advice IMO. It all needs to be considered, thats the only point. but BC plays its role (no more no less). No one is arguing about the BC , the BC of a pellet might be different in your gun compared to mine Quote Link to post
Dr B 186 Posted February 8, 2015 Report Share Posted February 8, 2015 Tests Wonderful. Too much time on your hands? Quote Link to post
David.evans 5,323 Posted February 8, 2015 Report Share Posted February 8, 2015 There's only one major consideration above all And thats accurate shot placement , every thing else has to come second ! Fact Quote Link to post
villaman 9,982 Posted February 8, 2015 Report Share Posted February 8, 2015 Exactly David , with what ever weight pellet that suits your gun Quote Link to post
Dr B 186 Posted February 8, 2015 Report Share Posted February 8, 2015 (edited) Accuracy - yes, I think has been said several times.......but always good to say it again. But its not the ONLY thing. Edited February 8, 2015 by Dr B Quote Link to post
stealthy1 3,964 Posted February 8, 2015 Report Share Posted February 8, 2015 Is that you Miles? 1 Quote Link to post
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