ghengis 4 Posted November 2, 2007 Report Share Posted November 2, 2007 just wandering if anyone has/had this cross and if you have worked/work it,have a mate that knows of a litter and he is keen but would rather find out some more on the cross. Quote Link to post
tyson 1 Posted November 2, 2007 Report Share Posted November 2, 2007 be very brainy but very slow Quote Link to post
Giro 2,648 Posted November 2, 2007 Report Share Posted November 2, 2007 I thought about that cross once.. Have you seen one tyson or are you just guessing it would be slow?? I aint seen one but dont think it would be slow slow mabie not like sal grey fast but be fast as colie grey first cross?? ?? Quote Link to post
tyson 1 Posted November 2, 2007 Report Share Posted November 2, 2007 grey is added for speed , collie for brains , grey faster than saluki , saluki faster than collie so therefore all collie brings is brains not speed so i guess they will be slower than pure saluki and slower than grey x collie Quote Link to post
ghengis 4 Posted November 2, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2007 will pass this on for him,i know he is on about using my old racing grey as a sire if the bitch was any good,that would make a good cross imo.? Quote Link to post
Guest mush Posted November 2, 2007 Report Share Posted November 2, 2007 i'm not saying a saluki is as fast as a greyhound but how fast is a saluki? as like hares they only run as fast as they need to. My old dog would slow down when you ran him with a greyhound and then speed up when the greyhounds started to slow and take over the course. I don't think there would be much in it if you compared a first cross G x Collie and a S x Collie as the greyhound maybe faster but put to a collie the cross is very heavy unlike saluki crosses i would think they would be about the same for speed, and they would be more nimble and keener to run anything you slip them on no mater how far away. JMO Quote Link to post
hunter cammo 0 Posted November 3, 2007 Report Share Posted November 3, 2007 i'm not saying a saluki is as fast as a greyhound but how fast is a saluki? as like hares they only run as fast as they need to. My old dog would slow down when you ran him with a greyhound and then speed up when the greyhounds started to slow and take over the course. I don't think there would be much in it if you compared a first cross G x Collie and a S x Collie as the greyhound maybe faster but put to a collie the cross is very heavy unlike saluki crosses i would think they would be about the same for speed, and they would be more nimble and keener to run anything you slip them on no mater how far away. JMO just what i was thinking to Quote Link to post
witton 6 Posted November 3, 2007 Report Share Posted November 3, 2007 i'm not saying a saluki is as fast as a greyhound but how fast is a saluki? as like hares they only run as fast as they need to. My old dog would slow down when you ran him with a greyhound and then speed up when the greyhounds started to slow and take over the course. I don't think there would be much in it if you compared a first cross G x Collie and a S x Collie as the greyhound maybe faster but put to a collie the cross is very heavy unlike saluki crosses i would think they would be about the same for speed, and they would be more nimble and keener to run anything you slip them on no mater how far away. JMO In my opinion just for the simple fact that the dogs half collie it will give it a higher chance of making it refuse to run gear thats far away.......they use there brains to much sometimes. Especially when its ran a season or 2. Im not saying this cross wouldn't be good, just i disagree that its fair to say that it will be keener to run anything no matter what the distance. If you want a dog that will run down the beam to anything u slip it on no matter how far away or how close to the edge then your better of with out any collie in at all, a running dog cross say a mix of grey, whippet, saluki would be more suited. Witton Quote Link to post
socks 32,253 Posted November 3, 2007 Report Share Posted November 3, 2007 (edited) if you compared a first cross G x Collie and a S x Collie as the greyhound maybe faster but put to a collie the cross is very heavy unlike saluki crosses FIRST CROSS COLLIE GREY .... DOESNT LOOK VERY HEAVY TO ME ................. and for the record will run ANYTHING no matter how far away ........... Edited November 3, 2007 by socks Quote Link to post
Guest SJM Posted November 3, 2007 Report Share Posted November 3, 2007 Haha I would not bother with this cross at all, I agree with what Tyson says I bred a decent collie/greyhound bitch who wasnt lacking much pace in her younger days, to a fast lurcher bred out of a good lurcher bitch to a saluki/grey and then put back to a whippet/grey. My pup has bypassed the whippet and grey completely and has thrown collie and saluki Shes a lovely pup dont get me wrong, shes doing everything I would want in a pup that age, shes very keen too. But she runs like a giraffe she has two paces, walking and a slow lope She cant accelerate or pull away the way a fast, sighthoundly lurcher can. She runs with her head up and doesnt arch her neck. She has never had any injuries so its not caused by that, its just the way the pup is. I think we will have to part company soon She is not my cup of tea speed wise, which is a shame as she has everything else Im looking for, good coat, light boned, tight feet, biddable, keen, starting to hunt, jump, carry back and shes stock broken, seems to have plenty of stamina too for raking about on the moors etc. If I can get this type of pup from such a mixed mating, imagine what you would get out of a straight collie x saluki a big gangly plodder with fluffy ears and a stuffy neck that would probably show a great interest in mutton. (Im picturing the worst case scenario of course ) back to the drawing board methinks Quote Link to post
snoopdog 1,256 Posted November 3, 2007 Report Share Posted November 3, 2007 this cross imho would lack early pace ..it might be ok once it got into its stride .....but not the cross for me ...but a bit saluki cant be bad in any running dog .... ........it only going to add good points just....its the latter cross you need to change Quote Link to post
Guest SJM Posted November 3, 2007 Report Share Posted November 3, 2007 bad combination perhaps? like water and oil, mix the two together and you just get a big ol mess that doesnt gel together :sick: Quote Link to post
snoopdog 1,256 Posted November 3, 2007 Report Share Posted November 3, 2007 bad combination perhaps? like water and oil, mix the two together and you just get a big ol mess that doesnt gel together :sick: thats one way off putting it sjm ......i think breeding any 1st cross there going to be a far percntage off litter waist ......there is the odd exspection ....but saluki x collie might make an superb herd dog ... Quote Link to post
Guest SHOT Posted November 3, 2007 Report Share Posted November 3, 2007 bit of greyhound in them and id be very keen on having one but as they are its a pointless mating. i saw on epupz yesterday mastiff x greyhound pups they say they,ll have the strengh of a mastiff and the versatility of the greyhound Quote Link to post
Guest SHOT Posted November 3, 2007 Report Share Posted November 3, 2007 all im saying is pass judgement if you have seen a saluki/collie work. thers a reason 99% of running dogs have greyhound or even whippet in them, no need to see one work but then it depends what you see as work. i cant see anyone who bred collie to saluki or somebody buying the pups being too clever or arsed wether they work or not. Quote Link to post
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