Looking For Some Advice . . .

[fluff 409]

some of my dogs take there food bowl in the bed to ,so every nite i watch them feed and take them of it , as the get posesive over a silly bowl , she thinks rabbits are food like the bowl , lack of game never had dogs burry because of lack of game , more heredity , get her fetching again properly , dead rabbits on string and then live ones in a controled manner , youlle rectifie it ,if not then at least you tried ,ha ddogs fetching good then sicken mostly alot of saluk in them , the collie typei have neverr sickend even when there knacked , hope you solve your problem

[Ideation 8,216]

I'll try that with the bowl.

 

There is more collie than saluki in this bitch.

 

She has never eaten or tried to eat a rabbit, but it i like what feral dogs do with food.

 

She fetches everything else well.

 

I think it would help to get her a lot of runs, but I'm really struggling to do that, despite best efforts! Anyone fancy taking me out on some decent land and letting me deck off on my own trying to train the idiot lol.

[fluff 409]

get youre self up ,befor season ends theres a local bed and brekki

[Ideation 8,216]

If that is a genuine offer, can you Pm me. I would certainly be game for taking the dog away and trying to get her sorted. I don't think anywhere round here I could safely take her on my own and put her on a good amount of rabbits.

[torchey 1,313]

Not heaving where I am but enough to keep her going all night ,might have to cover a bit of ground but the offers there if you need it

[squab 2,875]

hope you get it sorted and fair play to anyone willing to give you a night out but got to say you gone from 40/50 rabbits a day and good hauls at night on thousands of acres of land that is now barren,theres a moral there somewhere,im not bitching at you just reading between the lines mate good luck with it sure you will put it right atb

[Ideation 8,216]

I'm on phone so short reply, but thank you very much Torchey that would be hugely appreciated. I will PM you.

 

Rob - I understand what you are getting at but it wasn't just us that killed them off. It's been unfortunate, a large amount was destroyed in last years great flood and everything local got annihilated by VHd including the 2000 acres I work on. It's heartbreaking. Other members have seen it before and since. I've always done my best to control rather than wipe out and protect my sport.

[Giro 2,648]

Two good offers..

 

Hope she comes good mate - its disappointing & frustrating when the dogs show promise and do a U turn...

 

One of mine started a keen retriever and now wont retrieve..

 

I have try bits and bobs and to be honest - ive given up..

 

I am happier and so the dog lol

[paulsmithy83 567]

Also you mention ferreting when you been ferreting is it just been her out with you. If more then one dog this is where tons bad habbits can form in pups. Especially if the older dog isnt 100% retriever in it self. Cant get nothing worste then two dogs on a bunny pulling it this way n that way. This can be massive in install competition into a pup and not for the good. Total believer gettig out giving them field craft but under controlled conditions. What she do whilst out ferreting ??????

[Ideation 8,216]

Giro yes mate, very good offers.

 

And yes, very frustrating, she's a funny f****r, but work wise was coming on a treat and hadn't put a foot wrong. I only want her as a lamp dog really, and if I can't run her on rabbits it eliminates a large amount of my sport, and reduces the work she can have.

 

A lot of what has been said has gone through my mind in one form or another.

 

Ive only taken her ferreting in the last week, a couple of times. Up till then she had only ever walked out with my lot in the day and lamped and lamed a lone for the first few months, until I decided that the lack of game was going to f**k her up. Now I think its a combination of that and lamping with other dogs and folk around.

 

Stuck between a rock and a hard place, but i'll perceiver with her. She'll now only be walked on her own, and I might start taking her out with the gun shooting tree rats, see how many she can bury before she's sick of it! One way or another i'll fix it or go mad trying.

[fluff 409]

forget about lamping better in daylite so you can see what the dogs up to , never lamp to sort a problem always in daylite , first, see what the problem is and then use an expierenced eye ,not boasting but i never won top obeiednce and grafted lurchers hard ,coursing allsorts of game to a high standard because im a duck egg,

 

an hour and i would sort it out or piont it out and come up with solution or not , some are not clever to learn other gain knowledge through there peers ,i learnt of top greyhound men lurcher men and feildtrail spaneils etc , knowledge you cant get of a poxy comp ,

 

some will never learn im afraid , but better trying to rectifie mistake now , than passing it on ,saw alsorts in my life with dogs ,

 

i never take my pups out with radge dogs only a hundred percent dogs for ferreting or it becomes a free for all,

 

hope your problem gets solved as its a fecher when they start acting up ,

[nothernlite 18,077]

Great offer from fluffy well done

[Dewclaw69 484]

i run a 18 month old 3/4 collie grey that had problems retrieving. at the beginning of the season he was retrieving to hand then started to develop what i now think was a bit of a game. he was doing laps of honour with the caught rabbits and driving me nuts. i figured he was making his own entertainment and had found a new game which was only made better for him by me whistling and eventually shouting trying to get him back.

decided i'd play him at his own game and change the rules a little. soon as he caught, instead of me waiting for him to come back, lamp was off and i was walking away . he soon upped his game when he realised i wasn't playing his game and started to bring em straight back.

i may be back to square one as a foot injury has seen him laid up for a month but he's right now so we'll have to see. good luck

[brenna 365]

Had bitch few years ago done same catch them on lamp came back with bunny got within 5 yards of me with bunnie in mouth then ran on past me down to edge of fields crawled in under hedgerow and started to bury the bunnie sad to say I had to bury her couldn't get her out of the habbit atvb

[Casso 1,261]

It sounds like something to do with how she' feels about high value items such as food rabbit etc

 

All items can become hugly valued if you let it and you take yourself out of the equation

Dogs are drawn to objects in their environment that energise them and that Ground their energy, rabbits , foxes , a ball , a sleeve, whatever it is for whatever dog ,

So before we run into a issue with pups and food and aggression and how they feel about prey items , I drain the energy through me offering resistance to eat ,

Food / prey items causes energy in dogs , energy just can't go away it must be grounded, your dog is literally Grounding Energy through buried rabbits / food bowl if you get my drift

 

I don't bowl feed pups , they must push through resistance in my left hand to eat out of my right and what it does it physically grounds the energy in the pup caused by food , food doesn't become an issue and I become a way of grounding energy for the pup , because at the end of the day all a dog wants to do is ground that energy and it don't matter what form it takes ,

It's a physics problem not a biological one