Dewclaw69 484 Posted January 16, 2015 Report Share Posted January 16, 2015 theres a bit of difference there rob like hjkc is still legal appreciate your point and agree, but i'd rather kill a rabbit myself, have no use for retrieved dead rats and have no interest in reviving an old term that the hard of thinking minority may wish to revive and misuse. 1 Quote Link to post
border lad 1,047 Posted January 17, 2015 Report Share Posted January 17, 2015 No fluff did not breed the fawn dog, I dont know Fluff, a Lad called Sunny, bred the dog, and it was gifted to me, come from Humberside, the black bitch was also gifted, she come from central belt Scotland, the best things in life are FREE, you see lads plastering how the dogs are bred so called pedigree as long as your arm,££££££££££££££££££££££££££££s first the dog has to have the minerals, then the owner has to school his pup the way he wants it to work, and you will only get out what you put into the dog, yes I have had a few disappointments, in my life,but i have had some great times with my ole muts, companions, dedicated to there job, straining at the leash, let me go and do my job, ((( thats what they say to me, but everyman to his way of working, Nothing beats seeing a good dog work, Daytime, scenting, jumping around the rough, making there quarry break, ((((( FLUSHING TO THE GUN ))))) but some of those guys cannot shoot straight, so old faithful does his job, 2 Quote Link to post
FUJI 17,324 Posted January 17, 2015 Report Share Posted January 17, 2015 Good posts folks..Border Lad is a dogman and not just a man with a dog..there's a world of difference,he knows through dedication and experience how to get a dog in pristine order..as for HJKC ..I wish my cnuts could do just the one of those haha 2 Quote Link to post
border lad 1,047 Posted January 17, 2015 Report Share Posted January 17, 2015 Fuji= you put some graft under your dogs, and you know how to get the best out of them as well, there is No short cuts to experience, you made a dog out of that Saluki x you have its a shame you could not have kept the cream fella, he caught my eye, 1 Quote Link to post
fluff 409 Posted January 18, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2015 youllr not beat abit of collie in adog to be the proper h j kc dog at times , its funny nowadays how the first thing you hear is does it catch , never is it obeident does it fetch ,i think the standard of lurcher work has went down the way when it comes to obeidence at times 4 Quote Link to post
Maximus Ferret 2,063 Posted January 18, 2015 Report Share Posted January 18, 2015 I'm glad to hear you say that. The right collie grey has a lot to bring. Quote Link to post
Bryan 1,362 Posted January 18, 2015 Report Share Posted January 18, 2015 H J C K ? What a joke! Surely all that matters now is Gameness! I read it here all the time. Pace, footing, turn, strike and pick up are all historic terms surely. All you need is more gameness more bull. 2 Quote Link to post
morton 5,368 Posted January 18, 2015 Report Share Posted January 18, 2015 H J C K ? What a joke! Surely all that matters now is Gameness! I read it here all the time. Pace, footing, turn, strike and pick up are all historic terms surely. All you need is more gameness more bull. The gamest lurcher i witnessed,a first cross bull,could,nt hunt,could,nt jump,tried to kill anything within its limited range and refused to carry.The dog was renowned for its gutsy attitude and many a nugget kenneled it,then passed it on because it rarely tagged on to anything without assistance. 3 Quote Link to post
fluff 409 Posted January 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2015 alot of people dont realy no how to train or how to get the dog the chances to make them decent steady dogs ,watched one of my saluki crosses meg yesterday hunt the wind right round in a circle then like a cat stalked down wind of a hole ,there was a five holer we got three rabbits and that didnt have collie in her ,saw alot of poor articles of dogs hunting lately , running about mad and no style or control , headless chickens Quote Link to post
weasle 1,119 Posted January 19, 2015 Report Share Posted January 19, 2015 H J C K ? What a joke! Surely all that matters now is Gameness! I read it here all the time. Pace, footing, turn, strike and pick up are all historic terms surely. All you need is more gameness more bull. The gamest lurcher i witnessed,a first cross bull,could,nt hunt,could,nt jump,tried to kill anything within its limited range and refused to carry.The dog was renowned for its gutsy attitude and many a nugget kenneled it,then passed it on because it rarely tagged on to anything without assistance. Surely down to its owners? Surely not as game as the deer hounds pulling red stags 1 Quote Link to post
fluff 409 Posted January 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2015 ye your right there Quote Link to post
bunnys 1,228 Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 good thread ,and whilst as like the collie in the mix there be other base types that equal and can surpass them ,hjkc good some good posts and i am afraid its a sign of the times that most either have no desire ta train the animal of there choice or they just anna got a clue how two.my preference on a very fast recall installed does help and comes in ta play when hunting woodland and forestry blocks because if the game his in the animals ability to carry it usually his .having a jukel trained left right stop etc his and does play a big part of the real moocher,and the command no a big must lamping freely watching other runners with a cool heade well trained animal l watchiing the preceedings his a good sense of achievement . taking stuff from water either waterfowl or xsing water with the ability ta direct the jukel where they maybe game ,winding in thy animalhis a must and a animal that has super senses and smell has say the herding types and sheperds with out the manic nose down type has say some other breeds posses .all these little bits in my view go on ta get thee a hunting moocher call it what one may but pleasure his what we seek and these little bits in ta animal out weigh lots of other traits jumping a must and for the life cana undertstand why some dunna train two some are naturals others have to be coaxed either way no excuse i believe begetting the right blend can be a great help , but some can suffice with very little hound inn the make up of there jukel . AND have a knack some say skill ori say obsession bordering on OCD to be able to draw the very best and beget a animal that will graft way beyond there natural ability . atb bunnys. 1 Quote Link to post
op herrick 31 Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 HJKC ? far too many lurchers been slipped off a lead me thinks. i like my dogs to work that includes HUNTING JUMPING KILLING CARRYING. might be my age though i am a old fecker. 1 Quote Link to post
john the log 91 Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 mine hunt jump kill but will f**k the b*****ds carry Quote Link to post
fluff 409 Posted April 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 11, 2015 well how many teach adog the old accoldae h j k c ,or is it slip and come back after chase Quote Link to post
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