Advice Needed

[hare_n_hounds 157]

He looks a nice sort mate

[pearl87 3]

Cheers mate.He's gonna be big I think he's already as big as the lab.

[hare_n_hounds 157]

Haha, I got a pup few days ago, I think she's going to be a big en aswell! Deerhound x collie grey. She's 4mnths, I'll measure her tmra.

[3 Turns 326]

 

ALRIGHT PAL .

AFEW VISITS TO THE RAILWAY STATION FOR YOU BOTH.

POCKET FULL OF TREATS AND AND ALOT OF PATIENCE.

JUST FIND A SHELTERED BENCH IN FRONT OF THE BUSIEST LINE AND PARK YOURSELF FOR A COUPLE OF HOURS AT A TIME.

TRAINS BLASTING PAST AND HUSTLE N BUSTLE OF PEOPLE CUMIN AND GOING WILL BRING HIM ON.

CONSTANT INTERACTION WITH PEOPLE PATTING AND TOUCHING HIM WILL BRING HIM OUT HIS SHELL.

YOU JUST BE THERE CONSTANTLY PRAISING A SECURING HIM .

HE,LL COME GOOD ITS JUST A CONFIDENCE PROBLEM.

ATB.

this might work or just terrify the pup

ITS WORKED FOR US .

WHY WOULDNT IT WORK FOR SOMEONE ELSE?

 

WHATS YOUR INPUT?

[leethedog 3,071]

Do you chase the pup when he wont come back if so don't take the dog some where safe away from other people and traffic middle of a big field say and let him out keep him on the lead walk away from ya car and let him off let him mill around for a bit then call him in if he doesn't come get in the car and drive away just so he thinks you're gonna leave him all dogs are pack animals you feed him you are.the leader and he will shite him self walk back half way I bet he comes I did exactly this to a saluki cross he never missed a beet after

[leethedog 3,071]

Or you can try a method called walking down witch can be used on horse's and dogs go to a big enclosed field let the little fecker off let him mill around for a bit then call him in if he doesn't come just follow him at walking speed do not make eye contact or say a word in the end he will except you and come to you but do not make eye contact or a sound while doing.this I've seen this work on a horse in person it does take hours and a lot of patients

[tb25 4,627]

My pup was very timid..still is really.she's no good with stranger and stranh dogs but I take her to the park a lot to get her round other dogs and folks..she still not keeen on people but is getting better with dogs..she's sound with me.we got a good bond..

[fluff 409]

get her out with confident dogs and let her run and play the early salukis i had were like that some of them but they soon came out there shell once the got treats getting to jump in car and getting out for a run at something they will come round through time ,if not start again with dogs with no hang ups nature wise not a lover of nervy dogs ,hope you manage to win her confidence keep her awayfrom trains stations etc until she is well up and used to cars nioses ,work her up to it ,there fechall game in a train station mate and to much niose for a nervy type ,

Edited January 9, 2015 by fluff

[skycat 6,173]

I strongly advise that you see a really good professional who can teach you how to 'read' the pup. If you don't have a whole heap of experience with timid or damaged dogs then you may stay stuck in a sort of fog of misunderstanding between you and the pup. The only person I would recommend is Jim Greenwood, who specialises in damaged and unsocialised lurchers, though he does deal with all sorts of dogs.

 

It could well be that your pup was never properly socialised where he was bred, or he could have a nervous temperament as well, which would just make things even more difficult for him. Once a dog feels that its owner understands its body language, and responds in the right way, the dog will be able to feel more comfortable around its owner. Even without meaning to, it is easy to send out the wrong signals to a nervous pup or dog and put it even more ill at ease around you.

 

Some people have said the pup will come right given time, but that is not necessarily so. A pup, or dog, should see being with you as the very best place to be in the world. Without that trust and confidence in you there may always be problems.

 

I wouldn't recommend chasing the pup away without seeing it in the flesh and knowing exactly what the problem is. You could make things worse. Sending away tends to work better on dogs that are not scared, just unbonded. If the pup has reason to be frightened of people in general, there is something wrong. ~Even very unsocialised pups usually bond with their owner, but stay scared of strangers.

 

Give Jim Greenwood a ring: http://jandjgreenwood.co.uk/

 

I've also sent you a pm.

[Qbgrey 4,096]

Try sleeping next to him.stroking him.talking softly.I would keep him on a lead bond quicker.if he's free roaming he can keep away.

[Casso 1,261]

Desire overcomes the fear instinct, fear the instinct is uncontrollable,

If you continue training or similar activities you are only compounding the issue,

Only feed in your space , no bowl , no putting food down anywhere else, the desire to eat will force the pup to give up a certain amount of fear each time

Think of it like a scales when one side goes up the other goes down,

A desire is the only thing that will progress this pup, forget petting or fussing , it will only add more pressure on the already shaky foundations ,

Get him eating in your space , then touching you then pressing in for food ,

Let him make all the physical contact , the most important thing I can suggest to you is , f**k away the bowl and make the pup give up fear to hand feed in your space bud, best of luck

[hare_n_hounds 157]

My pup was very timid..still is really.she's no good with stranger and stranh dogs but I take her to the park a lot to get her round other dogs and folks..she still not keeen on people but is getting better with dogs..she's sound with me.we got a good bond..

Sounds like my old bitch mate, couldn't get a more loyal dog- one man dogs!

[pearl87 3]

Thanks for all the good advice folks much appreciated, Pms replied, I'll get someone in to help with the training ASAP until then I'll carry on as I am with the " All carrot no stick approach" as it isn't making him any worse at least. I've had a pocket full of dried meat with me all the time yesterday and today and give him some anytime he comes over and that's made a difference

[desertbred 5,490]

Its a matter of trust , just go about your normal business in a calculated , manner, dont make sudden movements or gestures towards the dog and if your mood is a bit off, stay away from the dog, the more nervous the dog the more they can pick up on negative vibes, When you feed it place the bowl a yard in front of you and just sit down on the ground dont call it or gesture the dog will eventually come to smell or eat the food , remain silent and still just read a book or something. The dog will eventually accept you being around the bond is something that will come at the dogs own pace , Be patient and dont try to teach anything at all until the dog is comfortable being around you, the basics will have to wait until the bond of man and dog is there once that is established then the commands and recall are not that difficult to instill.

Edited January 9, 2015 by desertbred

[Casso 1,261]

Its a matter of trust , just go about your normal business in a calculated , manner, dont make sudden movements or gestures towards the dog and if your mood is a bit off, stay away from the dog, the more nervous the dog the more they can pick up on negative vibes, When you feed it place the bowl a yard in front of you and just sit down on the ground dont call it or gesture the dog will eventually come to smell or eat the food , remain silent and still just read a book or something. The dog will eventually accept you being around the bond is something that will come at the dogs own pace , Be patient and dont try to teach anything at all until the dog is comfortable being around you, the basics will have to wait until the bond of man and dog is there once that is established then the commands and recall are not that difficult to instill.

That's a good post , forget training or visits to anyone , the single most important issue that pup has is safety, it needs to feel safe around you before it can contimplate doing anything else,

 

I wouldn't bother with the bowl , get him up closer than that and gradually bit by bit fear ebbs away , there is no magic cure , trust must be worked on before anything else