shepp 2,285 Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 Not really, satire is a strong part of French culture, it is a way of mocking the establishment and other groups who have power and influence. No incomer has a right to end this tradition. It is a fundamental right of freedom of speech and if it falls outside the law then they will be prosecuted. If Charlie Hebdo happened to be run by Front National or any other right wing group of people...... instead of a group of liberal lefties and feminists do you think it would of been left to run unchallenged on a national scale ?..........straightforward question. Impossible for me to know really as I don't have enough knowledge of the French system. My gut feeling is yes it would be, if it ran with the same fairly broad spectrum of critique. From what I can tell, the French have a broader excepted scope of political beliefs, from the socialist government in office to the Front National, which could even possibly take power one day. Imagine the BNP doing the same ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brigzy 1,298 Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 Not really, satire is a strong part of French culture, it is a way of mocking the establishment and other groups who have power and influence. No incomer has a right to end this tradition. It is a fundamental right of freedom of speech and if it falls outside the law then they will be prosecuted. If Charlie Hebdo happened to be run by Front National or any other right wing group of people...... instead of a group of liberal lefties and feminists do you think it would of been left to run unchallenged on a national scale ?..........straightforward question. No, they would have been hounded, abused and driven to closure, if they had been in the UK. I believe that the vast silent majority in this country are basically conservatives with a small "c". I would rather stick pins in my eyes than vote Tory, but my core beliefs are right wing; family, country, a strong military, a work ethic, etc; but the establishment and media, although in the minority, are left wing, and I count the Tories in that as well, and control our laws, press, television, etc, and their point of view is put forward as "mainstream", even though if it were put to a referendum, we, the people would win ! Just look at Europe, the vast majority of us want out, or at least a better deal, but the establishment want us to stay in, and have even closer union. Take hanging, the majority of us want it brought back, the left will never allow it. Immigration: we, the people want it controlled, but the left want it in ever increasing levels. I could go on, but you get the point. As long as people vote LibLabCon, nothing will change, they will do what THEY want, not what WE want ! 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Wasp 187 Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 I find it interesting to watch the reaction from "moderate muslims" on the likes of twitter and social media. They are offended, we are "islamophobic" and racist. I should imagine that the folks murdered yesterday and today are fairly f***ing offended. All this racist bolloxs is just that: bollox. There are people from every race in the world which are muslim. So how can it be a racist issue? Its not. If thier religion is that fragile that they become offended over a cartoon, then i would suggest that Europe is not the place for them. I am offended by muslims and the way they behave. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lurcherman 887 13,264 Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 Sick of this shit boring f***ing boring Quote Link to post Share on other sites
forest of dean redneck 11,755 Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 Exactly no one mentioned skin colour or camel f***ing ,it's a war on religion, instead of ukip and national front maybe they need Knights of Templars or a crusade, Disclaimer I never paid attention in history so don't shoot me down if I'm wrong,lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brigzy 1,298 Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 Sick of this shit boring f***ing boring It's news headlines around the world, our right to free speech is under attack, in fact the western world and its values are under attack, not to mention all those people shot to death while doing their jobs........ But you find it boring ? 8 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
socks 32,253 Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 The British press should have printed the pictures on every papers front page today to show we will not as a country be forced to curtail what we want to say or print ... BUT true to form of the way this spineless country has gone no such action was taken ......... 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brigzy 1,298 Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 The British press should have printed the pictures on every papers front page today to show we will not as a country be forced to curtail what we want to say or print ... BUT true to form of the way this spineless country has gone no such action was taken ......... See my post about left wing establishment and media......... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,820 Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 I've just read that in the 1940's "British authorities" used pig lard on suspected Islamic terrorism targets as part of their counter terrorism strategy! LOL No idea of any further details but made me smile anyway. LOL Back in the days when worrying about upsetting folks wasn't allowed to compromise effective defence policy! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mackay 3,425 Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 What about that tit clegg and the rest of the spineless gits we've got, they're actually kicking up a stink about Farages comments about a fifth column in our midst. They actually come across as more upset with what he's saying than the actual fecking atrocity. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brigzy 1,298 Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 The Indian Mutiny, when we ruled India, is generally thought to have been started, (though not the only reason, by any means), because the cartridges for the new Lee Enfield rifle were wrapped in paper and had to be bitten before loading, to release the powder , and were, according to rumour, coated in lard, which pissed of the Hindus, or coated in pig fat, which pissed off the Muslims. The loss of the British Empire could conceivably be linked to this religious aversion to two animals; the pig and the cow........... Religion has ALLWAYS and ALLWAYS will be connected with war. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,820 Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 (edited) What about that tit clegg and the rest of the spineless gits we've got, they're actually kicking up a stink about Farages comments about a fifth column in our midst. They actually come across as more upset with what he's saying than the actual fecking atrocity. What they're upset about is looking like blind ignorant idiots when addressed with the stark f***ing obvious! They have been singing the same BS song to us for so long I really do think they believe it! Along comes a politically savvy chap like Farage who speaks the inconvenient truth and they're all so confused that their world view they thought was so enlightening and modern has been proven bullocks they do what most people do when confronted with such a huge paradigm change, attack! f***ing..... idiots! Edited January 8, 2015 by Born Hunter 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shootlodge 146 Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 In nature all diseases need control & in some cases irradication !! Colour,race ,creed, religion has nothing to do for an exuse . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 47,956 Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 (edited) It's not worth getting wound up because what needs doing will never get done, that's why I have give up being an angry young man a long time ago. Talk, talk, talk while every other f****r round you be they black, white or Asian keeps voting for the left because they work for the f***ing council or the NHS or come from a mining community or because Graet Uncle f***ing Bulgaria always voted that way or their house price will go up etc etc etc.........it's bollocks. And by the by these c**ts at the top have consolidated their position, passed laws so you can't speake out and nailed the coffin lid shut ! My fellow hammer Gnasher said to me in another topic once "it sounds like you have give up"........yeah, too right I have give up. Sometimes you have to wipe your mouth and move on...........when your own people are f***ing you as well what chance have you got. Edited January 8, 2015 by WILF 8 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mackay 3,425 Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 It's not worth getting wound up because what needs doing will never get done, that's why I have give up being an angry young man a long time ago. Talk, talk, talk while every other f****r round you be they black, white or Asian keeps voting for the left because they work for the f***ing council or the NHS or come from a mining community or because Graet Uncle f***ing Bulgaria always voted that way or their house price will go up etc etc etc.........it's bollocks. And by the by these c**ts at the top have consolidated their position, passed laws so you can't speake out and nailed the coffin lid shut ! My fellow hammer Gnasher said to me in another topic once "it sounds like you have give up"........yeah, too right I have give up. Sometimes you have to wipe your mouth and move on...........when your own people are f***ing you as well what chance have you got. Personally I think our own people are worse, I actually despise the do gooders and traitors in our midst more than the actual people it revolves around, depending on who we are talking about. Do I blame an immigrant for trying to survive by abusing our system?, no. Do I blame muslims for playing the race card and cherry picking the parts of western society they want?, no. I blame the cancer within, the bstards that are so warped in their ideals and ashamed of everything that us Brits hold dear that they would actively encourage outsiders to abuse us for their own selfish ends. If and when it all kicks off I would hope the home grown liberal/lefty scum would be treated the same as any other fecker,who has abused our hospitality, or if possible worse even. 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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