tandors 888 Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 http://www.tradyouth.org/2015/01/can-kosher-nationalists-save-the-west/ Stumbled on this, a good, if a bit lengthy article on what is happening to Europe according to whoever traditional youth are lol. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,780 Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 (edited) This threat is no different to any other historical threat to our national security..... And when we start dealing with it in the same way we dealt with those historical threats it'll end the same way. Why aren't special counter terrorism units kicking doors in off the back of intelligence reports and double tapping anybody that raises so much as a banana? Why aren't NATO forces systematically working their way through Insurgency hotspots to annihilate the enemy? Iraq and Syria would be a good place to start, then move onto Nigeria, Algeria, Somalia etc. Am I making this out to be simpler strategically than it is? FFS we can deal with our home grown problem the same way we did the IRA and we can deal with the foreign one the same way we did Nazism/Communism. The way we dealt with the IRA? So give them a special government and put them in power then?Lol, fair comment. I was referring more to the combination of intelligemce gathering operations and direct military action taken. The Northern Ireland problem was far more complex than this. The British government weren't afraid to take direct action against identified players back then.They were very selective of their targets. Martin McGuiness is a torturer and murderer. Thomas 'Slab' Murphy was IRA Chief of Staff, responaible for plotting many bomb attacks. Insurgencies are not solved through military force. The role of the military is to keep the level of violence to an 'acceptably low' level, to enable a political solution to be reached. Which all sounds very grand but is cold comfort to the 18 year old infantry private patrolling over IEDs or into sniper's crosshairs. I'm not suggesting 2 para begin patrolling the streets of Rotherham mate. Like I said this is different to Ireland but it's similar in that we have small terrorist cells living amongst us. 40 years ago military intelligence would identify them and the government were NOT afraid of fairly ruthless direct action as a preemptive means of defence. Am I wrong about that mate? I'm happy to concede you're far more knowledgeable than me on this, why wouldn't similar operations work again for this threat? You're absolutely correct about a political solution needed for long term peace but in the short term I'll go with the neutralising any hint of extremism option. Edited January 9, 2015 by Born Hunter Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mouse 282 Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 McGuiness and murphy should of been put to sleep years ago along with adams.same should be done with these lot. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
blackmaggie 3,376 Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 http://www.tradyouth.org/2015/01/can-kosher-nationalists-save-the-west/ Stumbled on this, a good, if a bit lengthy article on what is happening to Europe according to whoever traditional youth are lol. and you believe anything griffin says theres a few reasons why the edl went the way it did Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 47,291 Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 People tak of negotiate etc, I am sorry but I don't believe the Arab mindset works that way........it's my observation that in the Arab/Muslim world the bloke with the biggest f***ing stick is in charge. f**k with him and he will ruthlessly apply the punishment to you and your kin until the natural order of things is restored. This is all they understand, we understood it too a couple of hundred years ago but we have progressed since then !! Lol 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hareydave 1,214 Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 This threat is no different to any other historical threat to our national security..... And when we start dealing with it in the same way we dealt with those historical threats it'll end the same way. Why aren't special counter terrorism units kicking doors in off the back of intelligence reports and double tapping anybody that raises so much as a banana? Why aren't NATO forces systematically working their way through Insurgency hotspots to annihilate the enemy? Iraq and Syria would be a good place to start, then move onto Nigeria, Algeria, Somalia etc. Am I making this out to be simpler strategically than it is? FFS we can deal with our home grown problem the same way we did the IRA and we can deal with the foreign one the same way we did Nazism/Communism. The way we dealt with the IRA? So give them a special government and put them in power then?Lol, fair comment. I was referring more to the combination of intelligemce gathering operations and direct military action taken. The Northern Ireland problem was far more complex than this. The British government weren't afraid to take direct action against identified players back then. They were very selective of their targets. Martin McGuiness is a torturer and murderer. Thomas 'Slab' Murphy was IRA Chief of Staff, responaible for plotting many bomb attacks. Insurgencies are not solved through military force. The role of the military is to keep the level of violence to an 'acceptably low' level, to enable a political solution to be reached. Which all sounds very grand but is cold comfort to the 18 year old infantry private patrolling over IEDs or into sniper's crosshairs. 18 year old got choice the same as the sniper, the innocent victims on the street they don't even get an apology Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Onlyworkmatters 1,584 Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 The french government have known since at least 2008 that these pieces of shit were terrorists, the same as the uk govmt knew Lee Rigbys killers were terrorists, they are knowingly allowing terrorists to live and move freely in our midst, they are equally as guilty are the murdering scum for ALL the innocent deaths, shame on them 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hareydave 1,214 Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 The french government have known since at least 2008 that these pieces of shit were terrorists, the same as the uk govmt knew Lee Rigbys killers were terrorists, they are knowingly allowing terrorists to live and move freely in our midst, they are equally as guilty are the murdering scum for ALL the innocent deaths, shame on them wouldn't be surprised if there controlling some them Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nans pat 2,575 Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 This threat is no different to any other historical threat to our national security..... And when we start dealing with it in the same way we dealt with those historical threats it'll end the same way. Why aren't special counter terrorism units kicking doors in off the back of intelligence reports and double tapping anybody that raises so much as a banana? Why aren't NATO forces systematically working their way through Insurgency hotspots to annihilate the enemy? Iraq and Syria would be a good place to start, then move onto Nigeria, Algeria, Somalia etc. Am I making this out to be simpler strategically than it is? FFS we can deal with our home grown problem the same way we did the IRA and we can deal with the foreign one the same way we did Nazism/Communism. The way we dealt with the IRA? So give them a special government and put them in power then?Lol, fair comment. I was referring more to the combination of intelligemce gathering operations and direct military action taken. The Northern Ireland problem was far more complex than this. The British government weren't afraid to take direct action against identified players back then. They were very selective of their targets. Martin McGuiness is a torturer and murderer. Thomas 'Slab' Murphy was IRA Chief of Staff, responaible for plotting many bomb attacks. Insurgencies are not solved through military force. The role of the military is to keep the level of violence to an 'acceptably low' level, to enable a political solution to be reached. Which all sounds very grand but is cold comfort to the 18 year old infantry private patrolling over IEDs or into sniper's crosshairs. mcguinness protecred speices ..supergrass named him in 200 odd statements still wasnt nicked ffs..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
riohog 5,721 Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 i blame it all on global warming 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bob.243 8,941 Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 . Marco Polo: He got it right all those years ago! We still haven’t cottoned on Old Marco, whose travels eight centuries ago, are well recorded; he was the first to leave a detailed chronicle of his travel experiences through Central Asia and China. Make no mistake; his insight into Islam from all that time ago, remains highly relevant to this day!! 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thebiggerdog 160 Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 more hostages taken southern france http://rt.com/news/221255-montpellier-jewelery-hostage-france/ better news though http://www.rte.ie/news/2015/0109/671571-hamza/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rodp 316 Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 told you grow up you talk bollocks max how isnt he a blood relative tell me that? my wifes greatgrandfather and my great grandfather were brothers Haidar Ali is my wifes Mothers Brother so wrong again get some facts max you divvy. Any time you get a running dog we can get out and see what you know keyboard hunter Hang on a bit, you're saying two great grandchildren married each other ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bob.243 8,941 Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 more hostages taken southern france http://rt.com/news/221255-montpellier-jewelery-hostage-france/ better news though http://www.rte.ie/news/2015/0109/671571-hamza/ Handy hooks. lol 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,780 Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 LOL I see the 'hactivists' are going to avenge the deaths in Paris by shutting down jihadist websites. People are murdered but these clowns reckon f***ing with jihadi John's email address is fair retribution. I wonder why the CIA didn't think of that... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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