desertbred 5,490 Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 (edited) Isreal is a zionist state you really are a lame brain Maxy boy your panicking about Muslims panicking about a jewish primeminister must be shite to be that paranoid, Jews and Muslims all descend from a common ancestor Abraham so not a great problem for me Maxy boy the State of Isreal its Politicians and Mosad are the problems but again you being such a geheologist of other people not to mention a political commentator you will know it all , suprised you know so much about my sporting activities maxy boy I know f**k all about you LOL You never offered me any run last year certainly you would have feck all to bother me why not this season ? or you want to wait till I am a year older Edited January 9, 2015 by desertbred Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nans pat 2,575 Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 england has been in conflict in countries were they had no buissness for the last 100 years.fact so some hypocrits on here . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
terryd 8,424 Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 (edited) Sounds like the hostage takers are all dead in both sites so thats one good thing but unfortunately some more civilians also http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/charlie-hebdo-suspects-and-third-gunman-killed-in-twin-police-raids/ar-AA7YKaF Edited January 9, 2015 by terryd Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fourlurchers 279 Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 so run and run and run and run and as their hearts go weaker and weaker keep terrorising until the blood and oxygen levels can take no more, move in for the kill / sounds very familiar go fill your paint kettles as it gets very boring Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,834 Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 Desertbred, as a Muslim do you have an opinion on what would see and end to this jihad being wages by a minority of hundreds of thousand around the globe? Do you believe they can be reasoned with and in Your opinion what would ease their anger ? 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tandors 888 Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 the worry is that these attacks will result in more foreign wars at the command of international zionists. These events, to me, highlight Islam is in a religious war against what they perceive as their enemies, the zionists and their useful idiots the west. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
blackmaggie 3,376 Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 BD I just find it tough to fathom a Special Forces killer is scared to get out on to the field lol Anyways enough of this back to topic Round all the illegals up and ship em out Flogg the lot at Calis then ship them out Any sign of Foreign Extreemism at all in Great Britain Ship them out Can't speak English Ship them out The above is common sense Not paranoia BD max most extremists here are british nationals muslim converts and if you want to beat muslim extremists over here you will need the help of muslims just like iraq etc Quote Link to post Share on other sites
unlacedgecko 1,466 Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 This threat is no different to any other historical threat to our national security..... And when we start dealing with it in the same way we dealt with those historical threats it'll end the same way. Why aren't special counter terrorism units kicking doors in off the back of intelligence reports and double tapping anybody that raises so much as a banana? Why aren't NATO forces systematically working their way through Insurgency hotspots to annihilate the enemy? Iraq and Syria would be a good place to start, then move onto Nigeria, Algeria, Somalia etc. Am I making this out to be simpler strategically than it is? FFS we can deal with our home grown problem the same way we did the IRA and we can deal with the foreign one the same way we did Nazism/Communism. The way we dealt with the IRA? So give them a special government and put them in power then? 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hareydave 1,214 Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 wtf there problem anyway Quote Link to post Share on other sites
desertbred 5,490 Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 (edited) Wilf to me this is not Jihad and to most Muslims this is not Jihad, The meaning of Jihad is war in the name of Allah. Most radical Groups Like ISIS , AL QUAIDA, TALIBAN, AL SHABAB are paid Mecenaries like in Afghanistan there are Uzbeks, Chechnians Arabs Pakistanis they kill muslim women children , old sick etc this is not in the Qran, Originally Taliban was started to fight the USSR and the invasion of Afghanistan when USSR fell apart they were dumped by the pay masters and became bandits for want of a better word many drug barons, war lords hire them out to the highest bidder this is how AL Quaida became the paymasters and subsequently ISIS the youth in Muslim communities around the world have for one reason or another been persuaded that suicide bombing, murder terorrism is part of Jihad so now its an uncaged tiger controlled in the main from Saudia and financed by various countries in the islamic world most of the financiers like Saudia, Oman Bahrain Yemen have regimes supported by western regimes also finance comes from capitalist so called Democracies why I dont know. How you stop it I honestly dont know flash points are through out the Arab world Asia and the Far East this is where history plays its part a lot of trouble stems from The Empire and its behaviour the Division of Palastine the Division of India The division of Kashmir The occupation of countries by Colonial powers it is endless Islam has also played its part in atrocities and now it is becoming part of the arsenal of the terorrist call them islamic but they are about as far away from islam as the Koffurs the none believers.. How to solve it I am not a politician nor am I a statesman so I dont know.Only I cant see it being a quick fix, Edited January 9, 2015 by desertbred 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,763 Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 This threat is no different to any other historical threat to our national security..... And when we start dealing with it in the same way we dealt with those historical threats it'll end the same way. Why aren't special counter terrorism units kicking doors in off the back of intelligence reports and double tapping anybody that raises so much as a banana? Why aren't NATO forces systematically working their way through Insurgency hotspots to annihilate the enemy? Iraq and Syria would be a good place to start, then move onto Nigeria, Algeria, Somalia etc. Am I making this out to be simpler strategically than it is? FFS we can deal with our home grown problem the same way we did the IRA and we can deal with the foreign one the same way we did Nazism/Communism. The way we dealt with the IRA? So give them a special government and put them in power then? Lol, fair comment. I was referring more to the combination of intelligemce gathering operations and direct military action taken. The Northern Ireland problem was far more complex than this. The British government weren't afraid to take direct action against identified players back then. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hareydave 1,214 Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 This threat is no different to any other historical threat to our national security..... And when we start dealing with it in the same way we dealt with those historical threats it'll end the same way. Why aren't special counter terrorism units kicking doors in off the back of intelligence reports and double tapping anybody that raises so much as a banana? Why aren't NATO forces systematically working their way through Insurgency hotspots to annihilate the enemy? Iraq and Syria would be a good place to start, then move onto Nigeria, Algeria, Somalia etc. Am I making this out to be simpler strategically than it is? FFS we can deal with our home grown problem the same way we did the IRA and we can deal with the foreign one the same way we did Nazism/Communism. The way we dealt with the IRA? So give them a special government and put them in power then? secret talks an backhanders to leave us aloan..cant see it working with them Quote Link to post Share on other sites
unlacedgecko 1,466 Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 The Germans killed gypsys, Slavs, spastics etc because they believed in breeding much the same as many of us do dogs. The name of the practice escapes me at the moment, but none the less in German eyes the Jews certainly were at the root of the war along with other reasons. These were no monsters thinking up the final solution, Heydrich was actually a very cultured and highly educated man with a love of the violin which he played well by all accounts, a loving father and husband from good stock . No monster this and yet implementing what we would call monstrous things.......makes you think don't it Eugenics is the term you are looking for. It was practised to a lesser degree on some Scandanavian countries until the 1970s or 80s. There is no such thing as a monster. In the heart of all men lurks the capacity to do great evil. Mohammed Siddiquee Khan (one of the 7/7 bombers) was a learning mentor working with children. http://kenanmalik.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/sidique-khan-2.jpg I remember reading news reports and being very disturbed by the above image, as he appears to look very kind. I can understand fighting and killing those who harm you, or your family, or threaten your existance. But to put on explosives and kill yourself in an attempt to kill and injure annonymous strangers is something I cannot get my head around. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
unlacedgecko 1,466 Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 This threat is no different to any other historical threat to our national security..... And when we start dealing with it in the same way we dealt with those historical threats it'll end the same way. Why aren't special counter terrorism units kicking doors in off the back of intelligence reports and double tapping anybody that raises so much as a banana? Why aren't NATO forces systematically working their way through Insurgency hotspots to annihilate the enemy? Iraq and Syria would be a good place to start, then move onto Nigeria, Algeria, Somalia etc. Am I making this out to be simpler strategically than it is? FFS we can deal with our home grown problem the same way we did the IRA and we can deal with the foreign one the same way we did Nazism/Communism. The way we dealt with the IRA? So give them a special government and put them in power then?Lol, fair comment. I was referring more to the combination of intelligemce gathering operations and direct military action taken. The Northern Ireland problem was far more complex than this. The British government weren't afraid to take direct action against identified players back then. They were very selective of their targets. Martin McGuiness is a torturer and murderer. Thomas 'Slab' Murphy was IRA Chief of Staff, responaible for plotting many bomb attacks. Insurgencies are not solved through military force. The role of the military is to keep the level of violence to an 'acceptably low' level, to enable a political solution to be reached. Which all sounds very grand but is cold comfort to the 18 year old infantry private patrolling over IEDs or into sniper's crosshairs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mackay 3,364 Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 Someone, somewhere is pulling the strings and Joe Bloggs at the bottom of the ladder is as usual the victim. Christian, muslim, black, white, I genuinely think there is a bigger agenda here. It's the man/woman on the street dying. I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but, there's genuinely something to all the shit going on that doesn't quite add up. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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