Brigzy 1,298 Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 It's not worth getting wound up because what needs doing will never get done, that's why I have give up being an angry young man a long time ago. Talk, talk, talk while every other f****r round you be they black, white or Asian keeps voting for the left because they work for the f***ing council or the NHS or come from a mining community or because Graet Uncle f***ing Bulgaria always voted that way or their house price will go up etc etc etc.........it's bollocks. And by the by these c**ts at the top have consolidated their position, passed laws so you can't speake out and nailed the coffin lid shut ! My fellow hammer Gnasher said to me in another topic once "it sounds like you have give up"........yeah, too right I have give up. Sometimes you have to wipe your mouth and move on...........when your own people are f***ing you as well what chance have you got. Never give up, Wilf, ( I doubt you have), I'm from a northern background, mother never worked, "just brought up the kids and kept house" back in the 50's, dad was a shipyard worker, we were all brought up to vote Labour and hate the Tories, yeah, I remember outside toilets , three brothers to a bedroom, ( first up, best dressed), and yes, it seems better back then, but in reality, it wasnt. Life is far better these days, but it could be even better if we had decent people leading us. The rich have got far richer, the Middle class are starting to hurt and the working class bear the brunt of it all ! How do we change it ? Well, by not voting for the established parties for a start ! Is UKIP the answer ? I don't know, but having seen for myself for almost 70 years what the others have done, I'm willing to give them a chance. 8 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,182 Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 Not really, satire is a strong part of French culture, it is a way of mocking the establishment and other groups who have power and influence. No incomer has a right to end this tradition. It is a fundamental right of freedom of speech and if it falls outside the law then they will be prosecuted. If Charlie Hebdo happened to be run by Front National or any other right wing group of people...... instead of a group of liberal lefties and feminists do you think it would of been left to run unchallenged on a national scale ?..........straightforward question. Impossible for me to know really as I don't have enough knowledge of the French system. My gut feeling is yes it would be, if it ran with the same fairly broad spectrum of critique. From what I can tell, the French have a broader excepted scope of political beliefs, from the socialist government in office to the Front National, which could even possibly take power one day. Imagine the BNP doing the same ? Well i,ll stick my neck out and say it wouldnt last 7 seconds !! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
downsview 448 Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 (edited) Unless you've put on a uniform in defense of this country or its population shut the f**k up ,arm chair warriors spouting inflammatory rhetoric your all as bad as the politicians you claim to despise hypocrits ,have another tinny a kebab put your feet up and keep dreaming ,don't worry plenty of young men with backbone to do the dieing for you. Edited January 8, 2015 by downsview Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brigzy 1,298 Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 Not really, satire is a strong part of French culture, it is a way of mocking the establishment and other groups who have power and influence. No incomer has a right to end this tradition. It is a fundamental right of freedom of speech and if it falls outside the law then they will be prosecuted. If Charlie Hebdo happened to be run by Front National or any other right wing group of people...... instead of a group of liberal lefties and feminists do you think it would of been left to run unchallenged on a national scale ?..........straightforward question. Impossible for me to know really as I don't have enough knowledge of the French system. My gut feeling is yes it would be, if it ran with the same fairly broad spectrum of critique. From what I can tell, the French have a broader excepted scope of political beliefs, from the socialist government in office to the Front National, which could even possibly take power one day. Imagine the BNP doing the same ? Well i,ll stick my neck out and say it wouldnt last 7 seconds !! For fucks sake Gnash ! There's not that many of us working class intellectuals on here, but I'd expect a more in depth reply than that ! If Wilf has given up, and you're going to give one line replies, I'll just have to rely on young Max for intelligent conversation on here from now on !!! (Sarcasm , irony, piss taking.... Debate and discourse is now dead on Hunting Life !) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,182 Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 It's not worth getting wound up because what needs doing will never get done, that's why I have give up being an angry young man a long time ago. Talk, talk, talk while every other f****r round you be they black, white or Asian keeps voting for the left because they work for the f***ing council or the NHS or come from a mining community or because Graet Uncle f***ing Bulgaria always voted that way or their house price will go up etc etc etc.........it's bollocks. And by the by these c**ts at the top have consolidated their position, passed laws so you can't speake out and nailed the coffin lid shut ! My fellow hammer Gnasher said to me in another topic once "it sounds like you have give up"........yeah, too right I have give up. Sometimes you have to wipe your mouth and move on...........when your own people are f***ing you as well what chance have you got. I read your posts on these topics with interest Wilf.....you dont sound like you,ve given up to me 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,182 Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 Not really, satire is a strong part of French culture, it is a way of mocking the establishment and other groups who have power and influence. No incomer has a right to end this tradition. It is a fundamental right of freedom of speech and if it falls outside the law then they will be prosecuted. If Charlie Hebdo happened to be run by Front National or any other right wing group of people...... instead of a group of liberal lefties and feminists do you think it would of been left to run unchallenged on a national scale ?..........straightforward question. Impossible for me to know really as I don't have enough knowledge of the French system. My gut feeling is yes it would be, if it ran with the same fairly broad spectrum of critique. From what I can tell, the French have a broader excepted scope of political beliefs, from the socialist government in office to the Front National, which could even possibly take power one day. Imagine the BNP doing the same ? Well i,ll stick my neck out and say it wouldnt last 7 seconds !! For fucks sake Gnash ! There's not that many of us working class intellectuals on here, but I'd expect a more in depth reply than that ! If Wilf has given up, and you're going to give one line replies, I'll just have to rely on young Max for intelligent conversation on here from now on !!! (Sarcasm , irony, piss taking.... Debate and discourse is now dead on Hunting Life !) I asked a simple question......got a simple answer.....and gave my own simple answer...........why in depth ? I can see your dying to get involved so away you go fill your boots Quote Link to post Share on other sites
waltjnr 6,833 Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 downsview,do you mean plenty of other lambs to the slaughter,just because youve worn a uniform ,doesnt mean youve fought for what you believe ,youve mearly followed orders and done what you were told ,or sorry did you have a fair hand in planning battles ,deploying troops,and everything else involved in running a battle field,siege,confrontation?Might have joined up fighting for queen/king and country,nice idea! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tb25 4,627 Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 Past few months wilf s post have been spot on for me..just trying to work out if he's changed or I have with me being g in a mist of shite for so long..with out sounding like a brown nose.that man talks sence.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,775 Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 Unless you've put on a uniform in defense of this country or its population shut the f**k up ,arm chair warriors spouting inflammatory rhetoric your all as bad as the politicians you claim to despise hypocrits ,have another tinny a kebab put your feet up and keep dreaming ,don't worry plenty of young men with backbone to do the dieing for you. UK security services and military forces exist to defend our sovereign territory, citizens and national interests... funded with the taxes of the citizens it's there for to protect. You don't have to serve in the military to have an opinion on national defence. Defence effects everyone, not just soldiers, airmen, sailors and marines. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brigzy 1,298 Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 Not really, satire is a strong part of French culture, it is a way of mocking the establishment and other groups who have power and influence. No incomer has a right to end this tradition. It is a fundamental right of freedom of speech and if it falls outside the law then they will be prosecuted. If Charlie Hebdo happened to be run by Front National or any other right wing group of people...... instead of a group of liberal lefties and feminists do you think it would of been left to run unchallenged on a national scale ?..........straightforward question. Impossible for me to know really as I don't have enough knowledge of the French system. My gut feeling is yes it would be, if it ran with the same fairly broad spectrum of critique. From what I can tell, the French have a broader excepted scope of political beliefs, from the socialist government in office to the Front National, which could even possibly take power one day. Imagine the BNP doing the same ? Well i,ll stick my neck out and say it wouldnt last 7 seconds !! For fucks sake Gnash ! There's not that many of us working class intellectuals on here, but I'd expect a more in depth reply than that ! If Wilf has given up, and you're going to give one line replies, I'll just have to rely on young Max for intelligent conversation on here from now on !!! (Sarcasm , irony, piss taking.... Debate and discourse is now dead on Hunting Life !) I asked a simple question......got a simple answer.....and gave my own simple answer...........why in depth ? I can see your dying to get involved so away you go fill your boots No mate, there aren't to many on here that you can have a conversation with and disagree with, without getting abuse, either openly or by PM. I've disagreed with yourself and Wilf on wildly different subjects, from politics to darts to football, but always respected your views. I can't help but reply to posts that pique my interest, and I hope you, and Wilf, do the same. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
waltjnr 6,833 Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 How do you think this will end,will they get taken alive?Referring to the two in France. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cleanspade 3,322 Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 Not really, satire is a strong part of French culture, it is a way of mocking the establishment and other groups who have power and influence. No incomer has a right to end this tradition. It is a fundamental right of freedom of speech and if it falls outside the law then they will be prosecuted. If Charlie Hebdo happened to be run by Front National or any other right wing group of people...... instead of a group of liberal lefties and feminists do you think it would of been left to run unchallenged on a national scale ?..........straightforward question. Impossible for me to know really as I don't have enough knowledge of the French system. My gut feeling is yes it would be, if it ran with the same fairly broad spectrum of critique. From what I can tell, the French have a broader excepted scope of political beliefs, from the socialist government in office to the Front National, which could even possibly take power one day. Imagine the BNP doing the same ? Well i,ll stick my neck out and say it wouldnt last 7 seconds !! For fucks sake Gnash ! There's not that many of us working class intellectuals on here, but I'd expect a more in depth reply than that ! If Wilf has given up, and you're going to give one line replies, I'll just have to rely on young Max for intelligent conversation on here from now on !!! (Sarcasm , irony, piss taking.... Debate and discourse is now dead on Hunting Life !) I asked a simple question......got a simple answer.....and gave my own simple answer...........why in depth ? I can see your dying to get involved so away you go fill your boots No mate, there aren't to many on here that you can have a conversation with and disagree with, without getting abuse, either openly or by PM. I've disagreed with yourself and Wilf on wildly different subjects, from politics to darts to football, but always respected your views. I can't help but reply to posts that pique my interest, and I hope you, and Wilf, do the same. FFS. GROUP HUG. . 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
downsview 448 Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 Don't think you can apply to help for heroes just because you've paid your taxes on time ,expect I will be reading in the news tommoroww about all you lads burning mosques etc pmsl (I doubt it ). I think you will find a lot of real British men died in a war trying to prevent women and young children being marched into gas chambers,judging by some of the language in this thred that's something a lot of you would quite happily let happen to Muslims , sink to that level what's the point in fighting for anything. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mackay 3,383 Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 Unless you've put on a uniform in defense of this country or its population shut the f**k up ,arm chair warriors spouting inflammatory rhetoric your all as bad as the politicians you claim to despise hypocrits ,have another tinny a kebab put your feet up and keep dreaming ,don't worry plenty of young men with backbone to do the dieing for you. So, if you haven't been in the army you can't have an opinion?. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brigzy 1,298 Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 Brigzy I give up on these Topics It's all wind and piss Fook all will get done Not for a good while yet then it maybe to late When we have a Muslim PM When we enslaved and doing as we told by Muslims like Choundry ect Till your daughters are a old mans 4 wife Maybe then the left wing do gooders will think what the f**k have we done I said two years ago maybe more Rip up the Human Rights Act Vote on a leader with a backbone who dare implement tough laws or Muslim Terrorists Tel them from now on we take everything from your immediate and extended family they own if you committ a terrorist act in the UK ' Europe or anywhere in the world Then it's a first class ticket to Afghanistan - Kobane ect for the lot of you . But I had folk saying that's too strong it ain't grandmas fault No it's their terrorist relatives fault. You get my drift We far to soft and a easy target. Those leading us are weak Farage is a good starting Point to eradicate Weak Politics. Max, you say you gave up on these topics..........then go into a long winded reply.....on this topic ! LOL ! Believe it or not, but I agree with most of what you say, on politics; not football !LOL! If it WERNT for people like us, Gnash, Wilf, and others, like the various Joe's, Bracken, Truther, Ragumup, etc, this forum wouldn't be worth visiting ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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