bird 9,977 Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 A few dogs down off Enrique Morfins old Crenshaw blood were blue and very succesful match dogs......whether they was 100% bulldog is debateable though. http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=231848 was reading Louis Colby book on apbt's and ok some strain of red nose were very game, and a lot came from Ireland back then. but in the when they were starting out with the breed back then any colour was used as along , as it had the minerals in the pit that all they were botherd about, they had big b/w dog champion that a lot of there dogs cam from in the book just food for thought Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Casso 1,261 Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 When was a dog attack ever based on the fact a dog was working bred or not, the vast majority of attacks are just family pets with no avenue to Canine expression of any form, Most of the most grounded relaxed animals are actually working dogs , who have clearly identified an avenue of expression be it the pit or the field 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
YOKEL 2,288 Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 A few dogs down off Enrique Morfins old Crenshaw blood were blue and very succesful match dogs......whether they was 100% bulldog is debateable though. http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=231848 The most important difference here is it is a GAMEBRED dog that happens to be blue in colour. Not a dog bred to be blue... Yokel 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dare 1,103 Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 "When I start breeding for color I'll sure call them Staffordshires because that's all they will be in a couple of generations" Howard Heinzl (1918 - 1989) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bird 9,977 Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 When was a dog attack ever based on the fact a dog was working bred or not, the vast majority of attacks are just family pets with no avenue to Canine expression of any form, Most of the most grounded relaxed animals are actually working dogs , who have clearly identified an avenue of expression be it the pit or the field that's it mate , the only prob though some breeds even if kept just as a pet, more so dogs like rottie,pits,gsd's akita's etc. that when they do bite the damage is massive , and deff more to a small person or child . last night gave my dogs a beef neck bone to have go at, more to stop my young dog wreaking the kennel lol . and if you see how they crunch a beef neck bone , and these 2 are only lurchers ok one a big prat but the other only greyhound size , it does make realise the bite of any norm size dog. some breeds like above are not what I would call proper pet dogs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jukel123 8,650 Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 (edited) Field sports are very different activities to watching dogs fighting. Combat sports when they involve people who participate out of their own freewill are also different to dog fighting. Watching dog fighting is perverted. Gross. Almost the same as paedophilia. really?????lol pedophillia and dog fighting are similiar to view?As disturbing as both are,theres no comparison to a child being abused by an adult and a pair of dogs going at it full steam.how you see it like that is a mystery to me. Let me explain as best I can. Pitbulls have been selectively bred for highly abnormal levels of aggression,jaw power and muscularity. Many only have to look at a strange dog to want to kill it. They don't have a choice whether they want to fight or not, they are canine 'psychos' programmed to fight for the pleasure of owners and onlookers. In effect they are genetically 'hard wired to fight'. A minority of these dogs are so psychotic that they attack and kill children. This happens with sickening regularity throughout the world where the pit bull is found. There's generally at least one case per year in the UK.This maniacal aggression against other dogs is encouraged and valued by owners.(Check out the criticism levelled at the pit bulls in the video by some on here. Evidently they should be locked onto each other to gain admiration) Some owners deliberately divert the innate dog aggression into human aggression. These dogs are serious weapons in the hands of often unstable people. Any dog deemed to lack courage would be culled, certainly not bred from. Therefore these dogs are victims as soon as they are whelped. Fighting dogs have a grim and short existence. To me, it's obscene to gain pleasure from watching pit bulls fight, just as it is obscene to gain pleasure from watching or engaging in sexual activity with a child. Both activities invoke horrible suffering. Both dog and child are being cynically exploited for the pleasure of perverted people.Neither dog nor child have any choice in the proceedings.That's why I said gaining pleasure from watching pit bulls fighting is 'almost as bad as paedophilia'. Hope that helps. Edited January 11, 2015 by jukel123 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AKA-BRINDLE 879 Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 (edited) A few dogs down off Enrique Morfins old Crenshaw blood were blue and very succesful match dogs......whether they was 100% bulldog is debateable though. http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=231848 The most important difference here is it is a GAMEBRED dog that happens to be blue in colour. Not a dog bred to be blue... Yokel And thats what i was getting at...(but what the f**k is going on in your avatar??!!! ) Edited January 9, 2015 by AKA-BRINDLE Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AKA-BRINDLE 879 Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 (edited) I agree you cant tell if a dogs a good example of its breed from a photo or video..(but i have came across those who thought they could)...but if you cant see them blue lumps sitting cheek by jowl together are piss poor examples of the American Pit Bull Terrier...then just keep on flushing the toilet...been watching too much Ceaser Milan by the sounds of it So you can or you cant tell if a dogs a good example from a photo/video ?......You,ve just said you cant.....and straight after said you can You can pull all the little crosseyed faces you like...you know what im getting at!...but no doubt if i was to say day was light and night was dark you would have to disagree...because clearly im pigshit thick and wouldnt know the differance...theres only one way to test how good a pitbull is...and no you cant see that on a picture...but you dont have to be a gamedog connoisseur to see what] those blue bullys are...bred for size... bred for exagerated confirmation...bred for exotic colours...bred to make money... not for work...but if you look at those big blue bullys all sitting down for tea together...and see potential good'uns...then you crack on cheif...all the best with that Stone the crows what you getting all excited about ?.......you are certainly fast out the traps their son do we know each other or are you just after a blue peter badge ? Ok you are saying any dog bred for colour or confirmation cannot be game......i disagree .........obviously the odds against them daft looking things being a proper bulldog is very slim but theres been plenty of daft looking dogs that were game so i wouldnt rule it out 100%......you would rule it out because you have seen a video clip of them sitting together eating food thats your opinion and your entitled to it i just couldnt work out if you was agreeing or disagreeing.....but it seems to of got your goat for some reason so i,ll just agree with what you think for a quiet life You've not 'got my goat'...far from it...just find it a bit petty you have to try and twist my words...at no point have i said 'a dog bred for colour or confirmation cannot be game'...i simply gave the opinion that those dogs in the video where poor example of the breed...i'd bet if i posted that video and said i thought they was good examples of the american pit bull terrier you would be the first to jump in and tell me i was wrong...but for some reason you want to argue the toss...i know you can see what im saying..maybe you got a soft spot for them blue bulldogs? (wernt you that sold Kevin Mitchel that big blue lump was it?)...that Gr Ch Sago is similar to the dogs in that video in colour only...put 7 of them Bellon club dogs in a room together for a tea party...then youd see the differance to the blue bullys in the video...but you know that dont you? Edited January 9, 2015 by AKA-BRINDLE Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AKA-BRINDLE 879 Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 AKA, what do you mean not bred for'work'? Surely not fighting? yeah i ment that sort of work...now dry your eyes...and go look at another thread if this one upsets you 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
C556 351 Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 Field sports are very different activities to watching dogs fighting. Combat sports when they involve people who participate out of their own freewill are also different to dog fighting. Watching dog fighting is perverted. Gross. Almost the same as paedophilia. really?????lol pedophillia and dog fighting are similiar to view?As disturbing as both are,theres no comparison to a child being abused by an adult and a pair of dogs going at it full steam.how you see it like that is a mystery to me. Let me explain as best I can. Pitbulls have been selectively bred for highly abnormal levels of aggression,jaw power and muscularity. Many only have to look at a strange dog to want to kill it. They don't have a choice whether they want to fight or not, they are canine 'psychos' programmed to fight for the pleasure of owners and onlookers. In effect they are genetically 'hard wired to fight'. A minority of these dogs are so psychotic that they attack and kill children. This happens with sickening regularity throughout the world where the pit bull is found. There's generally at least one case per year in the UK.This maniacal aggression against other dogs is encouraged and valued by owners. Some owners deliberately divert the innate dog aggression into human aggression. These dogs are serious weapons in the hands of often unstable people. Any dog deemed to lack courage would be culled, certainly not bred from. Therefore these dogs are victims as soon as they are whelped. Fighting dogs have a grim and short existence. To me, it's obscene to gain pleasure from watching pit bulls fight, just as it is obscene to gain pleasure from watching or engaging in sexual activity with a child. Both activities invoke horrible suffering. Both dog and child are being horribly exploited for the pleasure of perverted people.Neither dog nor child have any choice in the proceedings.That's why I said gaining pleasure from watching pit bulls fighting is 'almost as bad as paedophilia'. Hope that helps. The dogs can stop fighting at any time. Working dogs tend to be culled if they can't work. Many dogs from bull or shepherd breeds could be serious weapons in the hands of unstable people. Good pitbulls can live a long and wholesome life. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
downsouth 7,430 Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 Field sports are very different activities to watching dogs fighting. Combat sports when they involve people who participate out of their own freewill are also different to dog fighting. Watching dog fighting is perverted. Gross. Almost the same as paedophilia. really?????lol pedophillia and dog fighting are similiar to view?As disturbing as both are,theres no comparison to a child being abused by an adult and a pair of dogs going at it full steam.how you see it like that is a mystery to me. Let me explain as best I can. Pitbulls have been selectively bred for highly abnormal levels of aggression,jaw power and muscularity. Many only have to look at a strange dog to want to kill it. They don't have a choice whether they want to fight or not, they are canine 'psychos' programmed to fight for the pleasure of owners and onlookers. In effect they are genetically 'hard wired to fight'. A minority of these dogs are so psychotic that they attack and kill children. This happens with sickening regularity throughout the world where the pit bull is found. There's generally at least one case per year in the UK.This maniacal aggression against other dogs is encouraged and valued by owners. Some owners deliberately divert the innate dog aggression into human aggression. These dogs are serious weapons in the hands of often unstable people. Any dog deemed to lack courage would be culled, certainly not bred from. Therefore these dogs are victims as soon as they are whelped. Fighting dogs have a grim and short existence.To me, it's obscene to gain pleasure from watching pit bulls fight, just as it is obscene to gain pleasure from watching or engaging in sexual activity with a child. Both activities invoke horrible suffering. Both dog and child are being horribly exploited for the pleasure of perverted people.Neither dog nor child have any choice in the proceedings.That's why I said gaining pleasure from watching pit bulls fighting is 'almost as bad as paedophilia'. Hope that helps. Where did you learn all that?The daily Mirror. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mattyg1086 52 Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 I always thought that a good pitbull was friendly as hell to people but murder with other animals as you needed to be able to get up close to separate them without being bitten. Therefore shouldnt a true pitbull make a good pet in the right hands and im sure i read that in the 1800s when it was big the dog would be put in the pram and pushed home and that the reason they were such good fighting sogs was that they wanted to please thier owners so badly they were easy to train there are many examples of them being worked other than fighting on youtube i know what they were bred for but cant they be used for other things like the dog in the uk the police res ied and trained successfully only to be told it looked like a pitbull so was put down Quote Link to post Share on other sites
YOKEL 2,288 Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 try plonking the likes of zebo or chinaman etc in a pram and pushing it home. There's alot of rose tinted glasses anecdotes about the game bulldog being an absolute gent with humans, and whilst there are individuals that fit this profile, it is far from set in stone... Yokel. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
YOKEL 2,288 Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 A few dogs down off Enrique Morfins old Crenshaw blood were blue and very succesful match dogs......whether they was 100% bulldog is debateable though. http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=231848 The most important difference here is it is a GAMEBRED dog that happens to be blue in colour. Not a dog bred to be blue... Yokel (but what the f**k is going on in your avatar??!!! ) HAHA! Don't ask lol... Yokel Quote Link to post Share on other sites
leegreen 2,206 Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 To be honest the didn't look like they needed much feeding and the food didn't look that appetising. I feed my dogs like that from time to time just to make sure they are ok and then I stand right over them not giving them an inch just in case. I wouldn't allow any young children to feed a number of dogs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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