Casso 1,261 Posted January 14, 2015 Report Share Posted January 14, 2015 The issue which usually scuppers all things been fair and equal in dog sports is 1 /Money 2/ the human Ego, The dog is just doing what it's bred for but at the same time it needs to be protected from itself , not always the biggest concern around the pit wall Quote Link to post Share on other sites
richc12 84 Posted January 15, 2015 Report Share Posted January 15, 2015 Would a dog of been "dead game" if it was picked up sooner? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dodger 2,765 Posted January 15, 2015 Report Share Posted January 15, 2015 Stunning dogs but there's some real head bangers about that's for sure.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lenmcharristar 9,887 Posted January 15, 2015 Report Share Posted January 15, 2015 Field sports are very different activities to watching dogs fighting. Combat sports when they involve people who participate out of their own freewill are also different to dog fighting. Watching dog fighting is perverted. Gross. Almost the same as paedophilia.im not into dog fighting but this is prob the worst comment I've heard on here 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AXUM 255 Posted January 15, 2015 Report Share Posted January 15, 2015 Gnasher, seems to me like you are running away from the 'fight'. I have stated that those who are turned on by watching pit bulls fighting are little better than nonces.You strongly disagree. So tell us why.I don't expect you to incriminate yourself. Just give us the facts as you see them so we can engage in healthy debate. Don't get me wrong i think dog matching CAN be cruel if .... A....Dogs are used which are not bred off of direct fighting stock. B....Dogs are used who have not been schooled or conditioned correctly. C....Recognised rules are not adhered to. D....Dogs do not receive immediate and correct aftercare. Took the words out of my mouth . Just like terrier work and all forms of hunting dog fighting CAN be cruel if it's being done by scrotes with no respect for the animals just looking to quench some idiotic "blood lust". Done right I really don't see the difference between terrier work and dog fighting in terms of perceived cruelty, doesn't stop some hunting men turning into a bunch of knicker wearing antis when the subject is brought up though There is massive difference, in digging dogs you open to your terrier, remove terrier and humanely dispatch Fox asap or let big running dogs kill it which will take seconds, but in game dogs it's who's better fighter who can dominate, fight stop when one dog clearly can't win and owner picks up, or dog gets counted after it went out of hold and a scratch was made, basically dog made bas sign by not engaging and instead avoiding, so the dog,s will to continue is checked By going back to corner and restarting and that dog goes first and must do in 10 secs or he is counted out. Like boxing. So dog decides if he wants to continue or not, his free will. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AXUM 255 Posted January 15, 2015 Report Share Posted January 15, 2015 (edited) ...,.. Edited January 15, 2015 by AXUM Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BGD 6,436 Posted January 16, 2015 Report Share Posted January 16, 2015 Gnasher, seems to me like you are running away from the 'fight'. I have stated that those who are turned on by watching pit bulls fighting are little better than nonces.You strongly disagree. So tell us why.I don't expect you to incriminate yourself. Just give us the facts as you see them so we can engage in healthy debate. Don't get me wrong i think dog matching CAN be cruel if .... A....Dogs are used which are not bred off of direct fighting stock. B....Dogs are used who have not been schooled or conditioned correctly. C....Recognised rules are not adhered to. D....Dogs do not receive immediate and correct aftercare. Took the words out of my mouth . Just like terrier work and all forms of hunting dog fighting CAN be cruel if it's being done by scrotes with no respect for the animals just looking to quench some idiotic "blood lust". Done right I really don't see the difference between terrier work and dog fighting in terms of perceived cruelty, doesn't stop some hunting men turning into a bunch of knicker wearing antis when the subject is brought up though There is massive difference, in digging dogs you open to your terrier, remove terrier and humanely dispatch Fox asap or let big running dogs kill it which will take seconds, but in game dogs it's who's better fighter who can dominate, fight stop when one dog clearly can't win and owner picks up, or dog gets counted after it went out of hold and a scratch was made, basically dog made bas sign by not engaging and instead avoiding, so the dog,s will to continue is checked By going back to corner and restarting and that dog goes first and must do in 10 secs or he is counted out. Like boxing. So dog decides if he wants to continue or not, his free will. I really don't need the rules of matching explained to me I don't really see where we disagree? I never said terriorwork and dog matching were the same, just that in terms of cruelty I can't see much difference, both earthdog and box dog are there in combat risking life and limb (arguably the terrier even moreso than the bulldog) because they want to be there, remember they can back out at any time how can that be cruel? I just find it hypocritical when someone is fine with sending a wee terrier down into the dark to battle with charlie or brock but then turn around and call men that evenly match dogs in a controlled enviroment no better than paedophiles. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,441 Posted January 16, 2015 Report Share Posted January 16, 2015 When i first started coming on this site all i knew was bulldogs and had no respect for anything that wasnt one as regards gameness and athletic ability.......over the years ive realised a good earth dog or lurcher is just as impressive as a good bulldog.......but to compare dog matching to hunting is simply wrong when one is a sport and the other is work.......sport has to be fair to eliminate cruelty......work cant be fair to eliminate cruelty. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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