slipper 116 Posted January 2, 2015 Report Share Posted January 2, 2015 Is it ok to let my lurcher pup have a play in the garden after her food or can this be dodgy? Ie cause a twisted gut? Its just I am trying to house train her and she usually has a crap ten minutes after her grub, also I am trying to get her to retrieve but she isn't that interested so would letting her watch my spaniel retrieve help the penny drop? I haven't had her long so hopefully she just needs to settle in a bit, I have tried a rolled up sock, kids teddy and a ball but like I said I can't really get her exited Any ideas or comments welcome Quote Link to post
slipper 116 Posted January 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 2, 2015 Cheers joe she is 16 weeks old a beddy whippet x greyhound and about week I've had her I know ill probably get a bit of stick because I've only had her a week but all the pups I have had retrieved from pretty much day one, I had my pat pup doing it at 5 weeks but I know every dog is different She is so layed back she is horizontal! Got her sitting and coming to her name so she can't be totally daft lol Quote Link to post
slip lead 862 Posted January 2, 2015 Report Share Posted January 2, 2015 Play tug with the toy first,before you want her to retreaving. 1 Quote Link to post
bird 9,985 Posted January 2, 2015 Report Share Posted January 2, 2015 regards the twisted gut ( bloat ) as some people call it, it more of running on full gut, and not rested enough before hand . some breeds get bloat more than others, not heard it that much with lurchers, but know of few danes ridgebacks, big heavy type dogs get it, not saying smaller dogs don't , but not heard it. with the the training a beddyx the only dog in 30 years I couldn't get on with, so I pass on that lol. Quote Link to post
matt1979 766 Posted January 2, 2015 Report Share Posted January 2, 2015 I personally wouldn't play tug with a running dog I think it can hinder a soft mouth, I suppose it depends if you are wanting it to hunt edible game in the future though to be fair. I always try bending down low sometimes ly on the floor to get the pup bringing stuff back seems to gee them up and get them playful or jog the other way with plenty of praise when it comes back Quote Link to post
slipper 116 Posted January 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 2, 2015 Cheers I have tried bending down she does fetch but I can't seem to get her exited, I'll try and wind her up and then roll the ball but she casually walks up to it then very softly picks it up and brings it back Quote Link to post
slipper 116 Posted January 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 2, 2015 Well might sound daft but thats what it says in the books I have ( complete lurcher brian plummer and walshes lurchers and long dogs) says try and get the pup exited by holding it back and then bounce the ball in front of the dog and when pup is trying to get out of your arms let it chase the ball. Quote Link to post
leethedog 3,071 Posted January 2, 2015 Report Share Posted January 2, 2015 Make a flirt pole ie a stick a bit of string and an old sock let the pup Chase when it grabs the sock take the tension off the string position yourself so the pup comes to you try calling its name but very softly Quote Link to post
slipper 116 Posted January 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 2, 2015 Ok thanks peeps Quote Link to post
matt1979 766 Posted January 2, 2015 Report Share Posted January 2, 2015 I would be happy at that to be fair all dogs are different as has been said at the end of th day bringing it back is what counts. I have found running dogs are often not that interested in balls toys etc different matter when it comes to chasing other things. Enjoy the pup atb 1 Quote Link to post
slipper 116 Posted January 3, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2015 Also has anyone had a lurcher that is slow to take interest in moving things? I have all the patience in the world so I am not worried but whilst on walks she doesn't seem bothered by squirrels or ducks or anything really, Is this normal? Quote Link to post
nomoon 542 Posted January 3, 2015 Report Share Posted January 3, 2015 Also has anyone had a lurcher that is slow to take interest in moving things? I have all the patience in the world so I am not worried but whilst on walks she doesn't seem bothered by squirrels or ducks or anything really, Is this normal? you seem worried for as you say having all the patience in the world,its a puppy,let it be a puppy, build a bond ,have fun ,chill out, 1 Quote Link to post
Casso 1,261 Posted January 3, 2015 Report Share Posted January 3, 2015 Also has anyone had a lurcher that is slow to take interest in moving things? I have all the patience in the world so I am not worried but whilst on walks she doesn't seem bothered by squirrels or ducks or anything really, Is this normal? Keep the pup focussed on you as long as you can, it will pay dividends in the long run as in having more controlWhen a pup is overtly reacting to movement he is then acting on instincts a state which is uncontrollable for owners , The longer you can be a focus for his attention the better, don't be in rush to throw away his interest in you, it makes training much easier, Best of luck with pup Quote Link to post
socks 32,253 Posted January 3, 2015 Report Share Posted January 3, 2015 Also has anyone had a lurcher that is slow to take interest in moving things? I have all the patience in the world so I am not worried but whilst on walks she doesn't seem bothered by squirrels or ducks or anything really, Is this normal? Keep the pup focussed on you as long as you can, it will pay dividends in the long run as in having more controlWhen a pup is overtly reacting to movement he is then acting on instincts a state which is uncontrollable for owners , The longer you can be a focus for his attention the better, don't be in rush to throw away his interest in you, it makes training much easier, Best of luck with pup I have to totally disagree ... A dog working on instinct is the foundations and building blocks of training a dog to do what you want it to do ... A collie herds sheep through instinct ... The guarding breeds protect through instinct ... Running dogs chase through instinct ... It's this instinct we encourage and harness into what we want ... The trick is to harness the instinct and prey drive and mould it into what you want ... I would rather a running dog pup that chased everything it saw than one I had to kick up the arse to get moving ...... 2 Quote Link to post
Casso 1,261 Posted January 3, 2015 Report Share Posted January 3, 2015 Also has anyone had a lurcher that is slow to take interest in moving things? I have all the patience in the world so I am not worried but whilst on walks she doesn't seem bothered by squirrels or ducks or anything really, Is this normal? Keep the pup focussed on you as long as you can, it will pay dividends in the long run as in having more controlWhen a pup is overtly reacting to movement he is then acting on instincts a state which is uncontrollable for owners , The longer you can be a focus for his attention the better, don't be in rush to throw away his interest in you, it makes training much easier, Best of luck with pup I have to totally disagree ... A dog working on instinct is the foundations and building blocks of training a dog to do what you want it to do ... A collie herds sheep through instinct ... The guarding breeds protect through instinct ... Running dogs chase through instinct ... It's this instinct we encourage and harness into what we want ... The trick is to harness the instinct and prey drive and mould it into what you want ... I would rather a running dog pup that chased everything it saw than one I had to kick up the arse to get moving ...... I know where your coming from but a instinct is a uncounsious reaction with no intervention from handler , whereas drive sheepdog style is a controlled state which has 3 elements , sheep , dog and handler, it is a state where the dog can actively control its behavior for the benefit of the group , not so an instinct Quote Link to post
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