bird 9,866 Posted January 11, 2015 Report Share Posted January 11, 2015 I would agree with you there Trenchfoot.... Some folk tend to make what should be an uncomplicated issue,.. into some kind of algebraic equation.. Personaly, I have found it easier to either 'use what I got' ,.or try and locate, the dog for the job... I have always worked on the 'Keep it Simple,.Stupid' principle... that's it phil (keeping it simple) and as said one big part of lurcher hunting today (lamping) that is very popular as you know , going back to your old speckle days , got that vid and glad I did ,lamping really took the last 20-30years . but most lurcher xs will put dam good show in the lamp , and you deff don't need a collie x . its this simple in the day collie xs take some beating very true, but night time there other xs as good or lot better . so its what you do most of day or night, if both plenty of lurcher x lurcher bred doing great job at both . Quote Link to post
Rabbiting man 1,191 Posted January 11, 2015 Report Share Posted January 11, 2015 Rabbiting man . .. . What you thinking of using over her ??? Collie / Whippet Quote Link to post
Maximus Ferret 2,063 Posted January 11, 2015 Report Share Posted January 11, 2015 ray bird , has a point those animals killing good bags regular aint allways the traditional types ,like has said a little sal blood in a lamping type goes a long way atb bunnys. that's it mate and bit of bull , in those dogs that getting good bags the proof in the pudding as they say just look at some of there posts. In some of them but not all by any means. Fuji's Don and MB's Kat are collie grey. Tomo's Venus has saluki blood but no bull blood. Jim's snipe had many good bags and no bull blood. Admittedly though, the collie bull greys of DL do very well. 1 Quote Link to post
fluff 409 Posted January 12, 2015 Report Share Posted January 12, 2015 had several greyhounds the best were come on keera , and an old brindle bitch got her at 4 she hunted for a whole season caught hare rabbit roe fox and deer unasisted ,,this was when it was all legal the collie as in full collie would be the last dog i would use to get faster more capable lurchers ,ive saw bryn , work my own ones back in the early ninties late eighties , and they all lacked gears , so more collie isnt going put pressure on the game in hand ,i like a bit of collie ,but only a bit ,you get the right type of greyhound very handy dogs ,anybody who hunts open arable land on wel run qaurry soon sharpens up no pace empty bag some nites , any way all in the past but ,not forgotten , Quote Link to post
dytkos 17,784 Posted January 12, 2015 Report Share Posted January 12, 2015 ray bird , has a point those animals killing good bags regular aint allways the traditional types ,like has said a little sal blood in a lamping type goes a long way atb bunnys. that's it mate and bit of bull , in those dogs that getting good bags the proof in the pudding as they say just look at some of there posts. In some of them but not all by any means. Fuji's Don and MB's Kat are collie grey. Tomo's Venus has saluki blood but no bull blood. Jim's snipe had many good bags and no bull blood. Admittedly though, the collie bull greys of DL do very well. Think Kat has only little (beardie) collie in her Cheers, D. Quote Link to post
Maximus Ferret 2,063 Posted January 12, 2015 Report Share Posted January 12, 2015 ray bird , has a point those animals killing good bags regular aint allways the traditional types ,like has said a little sal blood in a lamping type goes a long way atb bunnys. that's it mate and bit of bull , in those dogs that getting good bags the proof in the pudding as they say just look at some of there posts. In some of them but not all by any means. Fuji's Don and MB's Kat are collie grey. Tomo's Venus has saluki blood but no bull blood. Jim's snipe had many good bags and no bull blood. Admittedly though, the collie bull greys of DL do very well. Think Kat has only little (beardie) collie in her Cheers, D. I stand corrected then. What's the rest of her breeding do you know? Quote Link to post
bird 9,866 Posted January 12, 2015 Report Share Posted January 12, 2015 ray bird , has a point those animals killing good bags regular aint allways the traditional types ,like has said a little sal blood in a lamping type goes a long way atb bunnys. that's it mate and bit of bull , in those dogs that getting good bags the proof in the pudding as they say just look at some of there posts. In some of them but not all by any means. Fuji's Don and MB's Kat are collie grey. Tomo's Venus has saluki blood but no bull blood. Jim's snipe had many good bags and no bull blood. Admittedly though, the collie bull greys of DL do very well. Think Kat has only little (beardie) collie in her Cheers, D. I stand corrected then. What's the rest of her breeding do you know? the dogs that got all the big bags = jim, above, and another dog gaffer got jim breeding in it that got bit of bull in there , got over the ton , gets big bags regular , David Lloyd had colliex grey x bull x grey done the ton , all these dogs don't have a lot off collie in there make maybe 1/4 if that , so that got to tell you something aint it . keep saying in the day colliexs or dogs with good lump of collie in them are prob the best in the day ferreting mooching , but night work proper hard night work as above you don't need much collie in a lurcher .!! 1 Quote Link to post
Wales1234 5,490 Posted January 12, 2015 Report Share Posted January 12, 2015 It's also having the about of rabbits to do the ton !! Bet there's dogs out there with all different types of breeding just not had the chance ! 1 Quote Link to post
colliejohn 840 Posted January 12, 2015 Report Share Posted January 12, 2015 (edited) It,s funny how certain threads diverse from the actual thread, what started out from collie greyhound pics has gone to whats the best type for lamping etc lol, one thing whats come from this post is their aint many folk what keep genuine collie greyhounds. regards collie john. Edited January 12, 2015 by colliejohn 2 Quote Link to post
Maximus Ferret 2,063 Posted January 12, 2015 Report Share Posted January 12, 2015 (edited) ray bird , has a point those animals killing good bags regular aint allways the traditional types ,like has said a little sal blood in a lamping type goes a long way atb bunnys. that's it mate and bit of bull , in those dogs that getting good bags the proof in the pudding as they say just look at some of there posts. In some of them but not all by any means. Fuji's Don and MB's Kat are collie grey. Tomo's Venus has saluki blood but no bull blood. Jim's snipe had many good bags and no bull blood. Admittedly though, the collie bull greys of DL do very well. Think Kat has only little (beardie) collie in her Cheers, D. I stand corrected then. What's the rest of her breeding do you know? the dogs that got all the big bags = jim, above, and another dog gaffer got jim breeding in it that got bit of bull in there , got over the ton , gets big bags regular , David Lloyd had colliex grey x bull x grey done the ton , all these dogs don't have a lot off collie in there make maybe 1/4 if that , so that got to tell you something aint it . keep saying in the day colliexs or dogs with good lump of collie in them are prob the best in the day ferreting mooching , but night work proper hard night work as above you don't need much collie in a lurcher .!! None got more than a quarter bull either And didn't MB go there and get a ton too? I may be remembering wrongly but I seem to remember a bit of bad feeling about that. Edited January 12, 2015 by Maximus Ferret Quote Link to post
bird 9,866 Posted January 12, 2015 Report Share Posted January 12, 2015 ray bird , has a point those animals killing good bags regular aint allways the traditional types ,like has said a little sal blood in a lamping type goes a long way atb bunnys. that's it mate and bit of bull , in those dogs that getting good bags the proof in the pudding as they say just look at some of there posts. In some of them but not all by any means. Fuji's Don and MB's Kat are collie grey. Tomo's Venus has saluki blood but no bull blood. Jim's snipe had many good bags and no bull blood. Admittedly though, the collie bull greys of DL do very well. Think Kat has only little (beardie) collie in her Cheers, D. I stand corrected then. What's the rest of her breeding do you know? the dogs that got all the big bags = jim, above, and another dog gaffer got jim breeding in it that got bit of bull in there , got over the ton , gets big bags regular , David Lloyd had colliex grey x bull x grey done the ton , all these dogs don't have a lot off collie in there make maybe 1/4 if that , so that got to tell you something aint it . keep saying in the day colliexs or dogs with good lump of collie in them are prob the best in the day ferreting mooching , but night work proper hard night work as above you don't need much collie in a lurcher .!! None got more than a quarter bull either And didn't MB go there and get a ton too? I may be remembering wrongly but I seem to remember a bit of bad feeling about that. don't know about MB to be honest , but the other 2 dogs only about 1/4 bull I think . and 1/4 bull or 1/4 colie enough in any lurcher I think, as been said on here plenty of other xs doing the big nights and good in the day . 1 Quote Link to post
s.e.s.k.u 1,893 Posted January 12, 2015 Report Share Posted January 12, 2015 The collie certainly divides opinion. ..I think some people aren't suited to certain breeds of dog.. and the collie types can be frustrating for some folk...It boils down to opinions and personal preference...l love em suit me fine..maybe im easily pleased? atb sesku 10 Quote Link to post
Dewclaw69 484 Posted January 12, 2015 Report Share Posted January 12, 2015 The collie certainly divides opinion. ..I think some people aren't suited to certain breeds of dog.. and the collie types can be frustrating for some folk...It boils down to opinions and personal preference...l love em suit me fine..maybe im easily pleased?20140917_185511.jpg atb sesku i'm running my first collie x after having running dogs for almost 40 years. always run beddy and dh types before. there is definitely something about a collie x and i'm not really sure what it is. i'm having to put more in but getting way more back than from any other lurcher i've ever had. very engaging dogs. mine's knocked a toe up at the minute and its plain to see he's more p*ssed off than me. playing the wounded soldier though and lovin it in the house 3 Quote Link to post
bird 9,866 Posted January 12, 2015 Report Share Posted January 12, 2015 The collie certainly divides opinion. ..I think some people aren't suited to certain breeds of dog.. and the collie types can be frustrating for some folk...It boils down to opinions and personal preference...l love em suit me fine..maybe im easily pleased?20140917_185511.jpg atb sesku good answer mate suppose having had other xs over the years some with bit of collie in or some with bit of bull in them, to having what ive got now with a lot of he herding blood in them , they don't suit my personality. as I found the other type xs do. but I still think drop of collie or bull , saluki etc. are needed in a lurcher from seeing this lurcher to lurcher bred dogs work. but its big old world out there plenty of lurchers to pick that suit you 1 Quote Link to post
Flacko 1,742 Posted January 12, 2015 Report Share Posted January 12, 2015 sesku I used to own just like that had her till she was 91/2 clever as feck mark fox or rabbit and wasn't scared to mix it decent honest working bitch looked mongrely, what's the opinions 1st x or 1stx to 1stx which you prefare atb Flacko Quote Link to post
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