Onlyworkmatters 1,584 Posted December 18, 2014 Report Share Posted December 18, 2014 There are prominent Labour mps and a shadow cabinet member that worked for NCCL and supported PIE (Peadophile information exchange) what chance will there ever be of the truth coming out, all of them are rotten to the core 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brigzy 1,298 Posted December 18, 2014 Report Share Posted December 18, 2014 On 18/12/2014 at 22:50, Onlyworkmatters said: There are prominent Labour mps and a shadow cabinet member that worked for NCCL and supported PIE (Peadophile information exchange) what chance will there ever be of the truth coming out, all of them are rotten to the core Harman, her husband Dromney, and Hewitt. All Labour Grandees who worked alongside PIE, and Harman was the lawyer for NCCL who was representing PIE to get the age of consent lowered to FOUR !!!!!! These people are still MPs in Parliament, making laws for US. They are all Labour MPs....... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
oneredtrim 148 Posted December 18, 2014 Report Share Posted December 18, 2014 On 18/12/2014 at 22:45, Brigzy said: On 18/12/2014 at 22:01, oneredtrim said: The fella today was screaming kids going dead 6 month ago, someone in authority likes giving whoever's up for a pull plenty of notice, it's no wonder saville was walking around all cock sure (pardon me). The straight head (nspcc) put in charge of looking into the missing files (over and above the two Brittan associated femme's) finally declared a dead end...files handed over have gone west.. along with any paper trail... I'd love to ask the two hundred and odd members of PIE..if they were contemplating/campaigning to bring the age of consent down to minor (forget the later notion of no age limit-for now)...how they were envisging getting an errection. http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/suspected-paedophiles-walking-free-after-7937130 http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/nov/22/media-gagged-westminster-child-abuse-ring Chief Constables have been, for the last possibly 30 years, political appointmrents, we need look no further than Blair, the Met Commissioner. They work for and do the bidding of their political masters, then get their knighthoods or peerages. Solving crimes is way down their list... But manipulating crime figures is at the top of their list. A few hundred children being raped by Pakistanis in Yorkshire would upset the agenda of "social cohesion", "intergration" and " multiculturism", that the "progressive left" , ie Labour wanted for our country. The "Agean Stables" need to be swept clear of all these people, and common sense returned....... Yeah i get your general point Briggsy but it's got to be said that the Castle/PIE cover-ups were pre Rochdale Asians...and the naming of heads who may well have been being blackmailled would also upset 'social cohesion'...did'nt saville more than twice utter something about the country falling down if they dared nick him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brigzy 1,298 Posted December 18, 2014 Report Share Posted December 18, 2014 On 18/12/2014 at 23:06, oneredtrim said: On 18/12/2014 at 22:45, Brigzy said: On 18/12/2014 at 22:01, oneredtrim said: The fella today was screaming kids going dead 6 month ago, someone in authority likes giving whoever's up for a pull plenty of notice, it's no wonder saville was walking around all cock sure (pardon me). The straight head (nspcc) put in charge of looking into the missing files (over and above the two Brittan associated femme's) finally declared a dead end...files handed over have gone west.. along with any paper trail... I'd love to ask the two hundred and odd members of PIE..if they were contemplating/campaigning to bring the age of consent down to minor (forget the later notion of no age limit-for now)...how they were envisging getting an errection. http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/suspected-paedophiles-walking-free-after-7937130 http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/nov/22/media-gagged-westminster-child-abuse-ring Chief Constables have been, for the last possibly 30 years, political appointmrents, we need look no further than Blair, the Met Commissioner. They work for and do the bidding of their political masters, then get their knighthoods or peerages. Solving crimes is way down their list... But manipulating crime figures is at the top of their list. A few hundred children being raped by Pakistanis in Yorkshire would upset the agenda of "social cohesion", "intergration" and " multiculturism", that the "progressive left" , ie Labour wanted for our country. The "Agean Stables" need to be swept clear of all these people, and common sense returned....... Yeah i get your general point Briggsy but it's got to be said that the Castle/PIE cover-ups were pre Rochdale Asians...and the naming of heads who may well have been being blackmailled would also upset 'social cohesion'...did'nt saville more than twice utter something about the country falling down if they dared nick him. I would rather the truth came out, mate. But I'm an old man now, who's lived through a few "scandals"; Profumo, Wison, Thorpe, Blunt, Westland, to name a few, and no one in authority was held to blame, even the odd one that was thrown to the wolves didn't REALY suffer the way a normal "criminal" would. So all I can hope for in my twilight years is to see someone lead a government that will look after us, the people, rather than the vested interests ! I fear I may meet my maker well before that ever happens.... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The one 8,522 Posted December 19, 2014 Report Share Posted December 19, 2014 Aye there going back to the seventy,s now and said they have enough to convict Seville on sevral serious charges now Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tsteve9999 456 Posted December 19, 2014 Report Share Posted December 19, 2014 I've been reading the conspiracy theories on the net for a few years now and used to take them with a pinch of salt, and slowly but surely what they have said is proving to be right. A lot of them point the finger at members of the royal family, particularly Andrew. A few years ago I'd have laughed but after Sir Cliff "Madge" Richard turned up in that written list from Elm House I'm not so sure any more. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 48,101 Posted December 19, 2014 Report Share Posted December 19, 2014 The more I have seen in the last few years the more I have come to the clear understanding that there is no such thing as Tory/Lab/Lib Dem......there are just politicians. The only sure thing is that there will be morons still voting for all these clowns no matter what because they have always voted that way/it's in the interest of their job I would urge anyone, vote for anybody else except these people. Wake the f**k up!!......these people have devastated the country and abused their position while doing it !!! Stop finger pointing, labour said this/Tory said that........their is no f***ing difference in these people. And UKIP should slow down and be more selective......no rush, let them hang their selves. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
oneredtrim 148 Posted December 19, 2014 Report Share Posted December 19, 2014 (edited) On 19/12/2014 at 09:40, tsteve9999 said: I've been reading the conspiracy theories on the net for a few years now and used to take them with a pinch of salt, and slowly but surely what they have said is proving to be right. A lot of them point the finger at members of the royal family, particularly Andrew. A few years ago I'd have laughed but after Sir Cliff "Madge" Richard turned up in that written list from Elm House I'm not so sure any more. The security/intell people would have been well versed to saville..they let him in/out of the palace for fun, sometimes masquerading to be Andy/Fergie's marriage repairer. Geoffrey Dickens did'nt only put the PIE shout up in the early '80's..in '83 he was adamandtheants enough to go publicly shouting paedo ring in the palace.(was the national anthem still played on the tele late doors in 83?) How exactly did Cyril Smith get to become a Lord Lieutenant, a... Lord.. Lieutenant, chief representative to the monarch Edited December 19, 2014 by oneredtrim Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Truther 1,579 Posted December 19, 2014 Report Share Posted December 19, 2014 On 18/12/2014 at 21:54, Brigzy said: On 18/12/2014 at 21:37, Truther said: On 18/12/2014 at 21:05, Brigzy said: On 18/12/2014 at 20:53, Truther said: On 18/12/2014 at 19:50, shepp said: On 18/12/2014 at 19:34, Truther said: On 18/12/2014 at 19:01, maxhardcore said: It's discusting and the British population should demand the police root them all out Filthy power hungry scum who saw these kids as nothing . RIP poor lads Makes me want to Vote Ukip even more We Need A New Fresh Start Maybe not perfect but better than the Scum wev had for 40 yrs How could anything make you want to vote ukip "even more" Not to mention the ukip councillors (as is now) knew about the Rotherham abuse for 6 years and say f**k all about it? ukip, another bunch of c**ts, sorry, tory c**ts Go on then prove it. Turner was at the 2005 seminar while he was a Conservative councillor, before defecting to Ukip. Jay's report says that in 2006 he requested a meeting with the then council leader, Roger Stone, in which "he expressed his concerns about CSE He told the inquiry that the council leader advised him the matters were being dealt with by the police and requested that he did not raise them publicly." Taken from this, http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/sep/03/rotherham-councillors-abuse-information-confidential Councillors from all parties knew, and all kept it quiet, all as guilty imo. Caven Vines (ukip) did not attend the meeting, but he was on a police panel, his excuse is he didn't know anything about it, not much f***ing use him being on the panel then? Non of them are to be trusted, simple. Not very long ago, UKIP were being derided as " racists, loons and fruit cakes"; now the Establishment and the mainstream media are terrified of them, and are on the attack. They have brought up some tenuous link between Farage and Enoch Powell from TWENTY TWO YEARS AGO to try and damage UKIP, but they fail to realise that most people in the UK support what Powell was saying. Now we have people like Truther, (Stalin described them as "useful idiots"), who are trying to link UKIP with the Rotherham child atrocities ! People see through this nonsense immediately, and makes more of them turn to UKIP for the answers they cannot get from the LibLabCon. Do I think UKIP is the answer, I don't know, but I'm willing to give them a try, they can't be worse than what we have now......... So an admission from Turners own mouth is "nonsense" ? you wish i was an idiot You can quote ONE person, and you, yourself, say Turner requested a meeting with the council leader, A LABOUR councillor, who lied to him and said it was being dealt with and fobbed him off ! but it's a fact that Rotherham Council, Rotherham MPs, Rotherham Police Authority, Rotherham Police Commissioner have been overwelmangly LABOUR. I don't wish you were an idiot; you made that choice yourself. To try and blame UKIP for the Rotherham child atrocities is simply insane. You obviously come across as a Labour voter/supporter, but they are to blame for the cover up of this disgrace. I was a Labour voter until '97 when Blair, Mandelson and Campbell took over and turned Labour against the working class and made it their own fiefdom and a way to power and riches. There is NO difference between the mainstream parties now, they all want cuts, austerity, and closer union and rule from Europe, where their continued enrichment will happen while we suffer. For you to try and denigrate UKIP, and link them to the rape of children only does their work for them . I'm not a revolutionary, in the accepted sense , but I'd like to see a great change in the way this country is governed, maybe UKIP can't do that, but they may shake up the people who can ... You're miles out Brigsy, last time i voted labour maggie was in power, i class labour as traitors just as much as any of the other mainstream parties, and the trade unions, another bunch of traitorous b*****ds. Im not saying ukip were to "blame" for any of the Rotherham grooming, they weren't at all, its squarely on the labour council/SS/police, but the fact is turner/vines knew about it, absolute fact, and said nothing, turner should have pushed the issue, but never did. If ukip are putting themselves forward as something "new" the best political move would be to at least hold an internal investigation into their councillors involvement/knowledge of the situation, and set a proper example, something you would expect if they were to be trusted, and something different, but its the same old same old by the look of it? By the sound of one of your later posts we want pretty much the same thing, a government that put the people of this country first and foremost, but ukip is a con job, the torys didn't get in last time, and they've dished all this hardship out, they know they don't have a chance this time, so try and take labour votes on the immigration issue using ukip. If you put your faith in any current party its a sure thing you'll never see what you want. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brigzy 1,298 Posted December 19, 2014 Report Share Posted December 19, 2014 Ideally I'd like to see the end of the "Party System", and a House of Commons made up of Independants, serving and answering to their constituents, not to a party. This will never happen, so the next best thing is to break the two party system, which looks to be happening now, with the rise of SNP, UKIP and the Greens. My choice is to vote for UKIP, if anyone cannot bring themselves to vote UKIP, then I would advise them to vote for an Independant candidate who's veiws are nearest their own. We will probably still end up with Labour or Tories as the biggest party, but their power would be much reduced and open to scrutiny. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mackay 3,439 Posted December 19, 2014 Report Share Posted December 19, 2014 I wonder if Turner/Vines had highlighted the muslim grooming gangs and what was going on under a labour councils noses they would have had any more success than Nick Griffin of the BNP. It was brought to all parties attention, they all chose to ignore it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Truther 1,579 Posted December 19, 2014 Report Share Posted December 19, 2014 On 19/12/2014 at 17:44, Brigzy said: Ideally I'd like to see the end of the "Party System", and a House of Commons made up of Independants, serving and answering to their constituents, not to a party. This will never happen, so the next best thing is to break the two party system, which looks to be happening now, with the rise of SNP, UKIP and the Greens. My choice is to vote for UKIP, if anyone cannot bring themselves to vote UKIP, then I would advise them to vote for an Independant candidate who's veiws are nearest their own. We will probably still end up with Labour or Tories as the biggest party, but their power would be much reduced and open to scrutiny. Sound reasoning Brigsy, we only differ on one thing, i see a vote for ukip as torys through the back door? There's no easy answer to running a country, you cant please everybody, but it should be a lot better than it is. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MickC 1,825 Posted December 19, 2014 Report Share Posted December 19, 2014 (edited) The powers that be/establishment have known for years about a Westminster paedophile/murder ring (from at least the early 70s/80s) but have refused to act on it and went as far as getting the Home Office to destroy the paedophile dossier naming the people involved. This case needs looking into properly and a Public inquiry started leaving no stone un turned to root them all out. David Icke might seem nuts but this another thing he wrote in about in books a long time ago even naming a Prime Minister involved with the missing children from the Haunts la Garenne Home (SP) Its time all this paeophillia was sorted out and all them flushed out and named and shamed and duly dealt with. Edited December 19, 2014 by MickC Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dare 1,103 Posted December 19, 2014 Report Share Posted December 19, 2014 If it was anyone else they'd be charged and given a light sentence. We're abroad supposedly fighting to give them a better life and democracy...we don't even have it here. Any job I've had be in undertakers,bulding site or on the railway...if anyone was a nonse you know what would happen...so how do they manage to have more than one of em at it? That's what I don't get. Anyone who knew anything but said f**k all because they put their parties image first is just as guilty. Someone with no morals like that should never be in a position of power. A revolution wouldn't be a bad idea and just start the whole political system again. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tiercel 6,986 Posted December 19, 2014 Report Share Posted December 19, 2014 On 19/12/2014 at 20:42, dare said: If it was anyone else they'd be charged and given a light sentence. We're abroad supposedly fighting to give them a better life and democracy...we don't even have it here. Any job I've had be in undertakers,bulding site or on the railway...if anyone was a nonse you know what would happen...so how do they manage to have more than one of em at it? That's what I don't get. Anyone who knew anything but said f**k all because they put their parties image first is just as guilty. Someone with no morals like that should never be in a position of power. A revolution wouldn't be a bad idea and just start the whole political system again. You still don't get it do you? We are just cannon fodder. We have no say, and theirs to use as they will. If that includes using and abusing children, well thats just Ted's, Jimmy's read any paedophile in government past or present, little ways. We pay them a minimum wage what more do they want? That is why I have not voted for the last 30 years. People who think that UKIP are any different are really seriously deluding themselves, and pinning their hopes on an unknown quantity that come from the same background as the rest of the RH Members. TC TC 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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