All Rounders

[bullx100% 681]

 

From the replies here it shows how widely people's view of what an "allrounder" is varies. For me its taking ANYTHING that gets up. For others its also doing a gundogs jobs etc

I don't think there are many lurchers, if raised properly and taught some basic obedience, that won't work the gun to some extent. At least flushing to the gun and retrieving shot game.

My old bitch picked it up after a handful of outings and whilst no expert she certainly did the job.

Your pup will be more than capable if it's something you fancied in the future.

An all rounder for me has to do all the above, jump, retrieve to hand, work with ferrets, work with bushing dogs, and also have a good temperament and be a pleasure to be around in general. Just as happy in the pub as in the field. These neurotic mental sorts that need work 24/7 are no use to me.

lady did sure put some game in front of my gun......been acouple of times this season I've missed having her there.......

[Gaz_1989 9,539]

An all rounder to me is any lurcher that will try its paw at anything.....jack of all trades master of none

I agree. But that should include more than just "taking what gets up".

 

That's not an all rounder I don't think? That's a point and slip dog. Point it at anything and slip it at anything.

 

"All rounder" shouldn't refer to the quarry being run. It should refer to the dog in general. Moocher, lamper, ferreter, busher, companion animal, work off a slip or work from heel, work the gun, work from a vehicle. Etc.

 

Maybe I'm wrong. Usually am ?

[Gaz_1989 9,539]

 

 

From the replies here it shows how widely people's view of what an "allrounder" is varies. For me its taking ANYTHING that gets up. For others its also doing a gundogs jobs etc

I don't think there are many lurchers, if raised properly and taught some basic obedience, that won't work the gun to some extent. At least flushing to the gun and retrieving shot game.

My old bitch picked it up after a handful of outings and whilst no expert she certainly did the job.

Your pup will be more than capable if it's something you fancied in the future.

An all rounder for me has to do all the above, jump, retrieve to hand, work with ferrets, work with bushing dogs, and also have a good temperament and be a pleasure to be around in general. Just as happy in the pub as in the field. These neurotic mental sorts that need work 24/7 are no use to me.

lady did sure put some game in front of my gun......been acouple of times this season I've missed having her there.......

She was an all rounder in my book. Nothing she wouldn't have a crack at.

[Moorside 642]

Yeah I agree with you adaptability is a good thing, no one wants a head case on the bank

[Gaz_1989 9,539]

Yeah I agree with you adaptability is a good thing, no one wants a head case on the bank

I think some lads do. And a headcase would surely have it's moments.

 

But I don't think it could ever be an all rounder just because it runs anything.

[Moorside 642]

But if it cant run everything theres holes in its allrounder tag

[Gaz_1989 9,539]

But if it cant run everything theres holes in its allrounder tag

I'm saying it needs to be able to do more than just run anything.

 

Just "running anything" isn't an all rounder.

[Moorside 642]

We are getting into opinions now and thry differ from person to person

[Gaz_1989 9,539]

We are getting into opinions now and thry differ from person to person

That's what I'm saying though. I don't think it is down to opinion. A dog is either an all rounder or it isn't.

 

What me and you want from our dogs doesn't matter.

 

You don't ferret. So your dogs will never be all rounders. That doesn't mean to say they won't excel at everything you do and want. They just won't be all rounders. My bitch will never retrieve big stuff so she won't be an all rounder. Just because I don't want her to that doesn't make her an all rounder does it?

[luckyplum 50]

i have to agree with gaz when he says that an alrounder should be a moocher/ferreter/ companion/busher/work to the gun etc. thats what i,d like from my next dog anyway, cheers plum !

[Gaz_1989 9,539]

People say an all rounder depends what you want from the dog.

 

It doesn't.

 

It's either an all rounder or it isn't. Surely???

[Moorside 642]

Lurchers bread and butter is running down prey, if it wont do that that all the other stuff is irrelevant

[Moorside 642]

How can it be an allrounder if theres certain things it cant/wont take?

[the big chief 3,099]

there was two a dhxgh x colliexgh and a beddy whippet gh both very handy and two of the best dogs i have ever owned moorside knows about those two

[Moorside 642]

I certainly do pal