forest of dean redneck 11,788 Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 On 21/09/2016 at 15:05, gvc said: On 19/09/2016 at 14:47, billhardy said: That's rings true Royo natural looking types with out any exaggeration collie curs mall types cattle dogs kelpies aalsations all throw similiar types but for the sizes.i reckon this collie mall litter will blend nicely and hopefully keep any silly traits at bay.atb bunnys. That's what we were hoping for We would like to produce something that resembles the rough tough working collie x's that seam to have disappeared. Only time will tell but we hope that using well tested working dogs will pay off with a nice line of luchers capable of being true allrounders. How s the pups doing have you had much interest in them. Quote Link to post
jukel123 8,950 Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 What's the temperament and working ability of the sire like GVC? Quote Link to post
gvc 491 Posted September 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 On 21/09/2016 at 17:35, jukel123 said: What's the temperament and working ability of the sire like GVC? He is very sensible and palsied out side of work but as soon as he is out the yard he is switched on there is no off button. He is totally obsessed with hunting and using his nose. The dog will air cent at an incredible distance and as he closes in turns to ground cent and all this Is at a pace most dogs will struggle to keep pace with just following him. He will hunt on cent alone until he is a dot on the horizon and will take any quarry single handed. He holds none of the negative traits you see in some collie crosses. He runs everything like his life depends on it. The only reason we are trying this cross is we feel it's best way to try and replicate the sire. He will work from sun up till sun down and never look disinterested or half hearted. No matter what there is to hunt he will find it hunt it and retrieve it if possible. He is seven now and works as hard and with all the vigour and intensity as he did in his early days. He has to seen to appreciate him. 1 Quote Link to post
gvc 491 Posted September 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 On 21/09/2016 at 17:20, forest of dean redneck said: On 21/09/2016 at 15:05, gvc said: On 19/09/2016 at 14:47, billhardy said: That's rings true Royo natural looking types with out any exaggeration collie curs mall types cattle dogs kelpies aalsations all throw similiar types but for the sizes.i reckon this collie mall litter will blend nicely and hopefully keep any silly traits at bay.atb bunnys. That's what we were hoping for We would like to produce something that resembles the rough tough working collie x's that seam to have disappeared. Only time will tell but we hope that using well tested working dogs will pay off with a nice line of luchers capable of being true allrounders. How s the pups doing have you had much interest in them.Pups are coming on really well but they are just 3 weeks old. I've not advertised them as I really need to see what they are turning out like and I think until they hit the six week mark it's hard to judge. 1 Quote Link to post
gvc 491 Posted September 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 On 21/09/2016 at 16:21, billhardy said: Right direction collie types of old even the xs grey thirty yrs ago were so different than most ta day ,gud that bit a malli should harden them out and level there heads with out the use of terrier blood usually bull. That's the thing work ethics and not visuall looks these should be placed ta good knowledgable working homes atb bunnys 100% agree with you on this post. Quote Link to post
forest of dean redneck 11,788 Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 On 21/09/2016 at 20:55, gvc said: On 21/09/2016 at 17:20, forest of dean redneck said: On 21/09/2016 at 15:05, gvc said: On 19/09/2016 at 14:47, billhardy said: That's rings true Royo natural looking types with out any exaggeration collie curs mall types cattle dogs kelpies aalsations all throw similiar types but for the sizes.i reckon this collie mall litter will blend nicely and hopefully keep any silly traits at bay.atb bunnys. That's what we were hoping for We would like to produce something that resembles the rough tough working collie x's that seam to have disappeared. Only time will tell but we hope that using well tested working dogs will pay off with a nice line of luchers capable of being true allrounders. How s the pups doing have you had much interest in them.Pups are coming on really well but they are just 3 weeks old. I've not advertised them as I really need to see what they are turning out like and I think until they hit the six week mark it's hard to judge.Yeah it's a lot easier to have a gamble on a pup when they are nearer 8 weeks ,can get better idea of their temperament etc. Quote Link to post
Chicken_man 1,651 Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 Nice one gvc, all the pups looking good ? 1 Quote Link to post
colliejohn 840 Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 Hi mate have you got a pic of the first cross collie greyhound sire please. regards collie john. Quote Link to post
forest of dean redneck 11,788 Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 On 22/09/2016 at 08:41, colliejohn said: Hi mate have you got a pic of the first cross collie greyhound sire please. regards collie john. I assumed it was the black n white dog? On previous page. Quote Link to post
gvc 491 Posted September 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 On 22/09/2016 at 08:41, colliejohn said: Hi mate have you got a pic of the first cross collie greyhound sire please. regards collie john. 5 Quote Link to post
roybo 2,873 Posted September 23, 2016 Report Share Posted September 23, 2016 Just a thought gvc would it not be better to get where you want to be with the malinois cross, maybe line/inbreeding, before adding new blood? In no way a criticism just thinking that they maybe be a bit unpredictable on what you are getting and a few generations of the breeding may tell you more about what you have/want? Quote Link to post
roybo 2,873 Posted September 23, 2016 Report Share Posted September 23, 2016 Nice type the collie cross by the way. And don't mean my previous post to sound like crabbing 1 Quote Link to post
colliejohn 840 Posted September 23, 2016 Report Share Posted September 23, 2016 Hi mate did you breed the sire yourself is it a genuine first cross. regards collie john. Quote Link to post
fatlad 250 Posted September 23, 2016 Report Share Posted September 23, 2016 they sound a interesting litter both parents look like there not to heavy and can run abit good luck with them 1 Quote Link to post
gvc 491 Posted September 24, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 24, 2016 On 23/09/2016 at 08:59, roybo said: Just a thought gvc would it not be better to get where you want to be with the malinois cross, maybe line/inbreeding, before adding new blood? In no way a criticism just thinking that they maybe be a bit unpredictable on what you are getting and a few generations of the breeding may tell you more about what you have/want? Yes I agree with you and your point is a valid one. I wouldn't rule that out in the future. But the reason we started on this venture with this cross was to out cross her with our collie cross dog. We hoped she would help with coat,size,length and gameness but essentially staying with the herding blood. All of these things are present in the bitch and after working her we are very pleased with her so far. We hope these good points will Pass on to the pups. But all this said until the pups have proven them selves and we are able to assess there work ethic and natures the next step is un known. 3 Quote Link to post
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