Sydney Hostages

[bracken boy 584]

Should snipers be made redundant??? I had a truck that wasnt being used so i got £ 16grand from british steel / corus... Fuckinggg dimwits use yaa bullits..

[Truther 1,579]

Fuckk you truther the see every single one of us as fair game!!!

 

Zero tolerance for them now, ban them from voting or standing for election and the seccond one steps out of line deport their entire family and or close associates.

 

And any appeasers or self haters send them to the feckin outer hebridees on some shitty uninhabited island

 

"f**k me" for asking a morality question We invade countries to steal their shit and kill thousands of innocent people, and you expect them to just sit and take it? unrealistic Mush. anjem choudrey thinks like that, he said "no innocent people should be harmed" only problem is he thinks only muslims are innocent, what's the difference between him and you, not a f***ing lot really The problem some folk (brainwashed fucktards) have with questions like that is, it makes you face the real truth, our glorious leaders are as bad as, if not worse than the "enemy" and were all culpable because we vote them in, or idiots who believe politics is real do

 

Totally muslim free UK for me Mush, not f***ing one, peaceful or not, so your second point is a bit soft for me.

 

Appeasers/apologists, f**k em, parachute them into isis held land, alan henning was "beginning to appreciate the tenants of islam" said his muslim female doctor friend who was with him when he was kidnapped, f**k him, good riddance.

 

But i can be realistic about why things happen, why so many muslims do what they do, human nature to avenge your family, no matter what you are, just keep burying your head in the sand

[dare 1,103]

Why are our politicians allowing it? Could it be that sharia law doesn't allow democracy so those with power will forever keep their power and don't have to play by the rules anyway? Of course just a theory but im honestly lost as to why more isnt done to sort out the problem with extremists.

[DEERMAN 1,020]

 

 

 

 

 

 

Australian Police / Politicians Playing Dangerous Games , Stating There Trying To End This Peacefully , They've Had Plenty Of Opportunities To Shoot This Bloke Going By The Pics There Showing , If 1 Hostage Dies Here They've Failed There People !!

They don't know the full facts ,I.E is there only one ? whats weapons he has got or explosives like he claims ,they wont make a move until people start getting shot or its 99% on the cards...they will always go down the peaceful route until they have no chose however long it takes

Well 1 Poor Innocent Person Is Dead . . Bet There Family Wish They Hadn't Of Treated This Fukcer With Kid Gloves & Taken The 1st Opportunity They Had !!

Deerman is right though. One innocent died through operational caution, many more could have died by acting before a clear tactical picture was gathered.

Lol How Weak We Are , My Comments Weren't An After Thought I Said This At 8 This Morning & Im A Painter & Decorator Who Virtually Knew How This Would End & Im No Security Expert I Was Going On How These People Have Acted In The Past So If I Knew It , I'm 100% Certain The Australian Security People Would Off ?? They Would Of Known He Was A Lone Wolf So To Speak And Instead Off Takin Clear Pictures They Should Of Given Him A Lead Ear-Ring . . As I Said Earlier Maybe No 1 On Here Will Agree But The Victims Family Definitely Would !!

You didn't know though, you suspected and was right... it's easy for us, not so easy for the Op commanders that have 30 hostages, police, assault team etc to worry about had a bomb gone off. Not like terrorists have used bombs before...

I'm sure the victims family would agree, as I'm sure they would with me had it gone tits up. I trust our security services.

BH I'm Not Arguing As We Both Have Our Opinions But They'd Had Witnesses Who'd Come out & Would Of Known He Was Alone . . I May Off Been Lucky In My Views But The Outcome Wasn't A Shock & Now The Australian People Will Judge The Authorities Decisions . . If It Happened Again Tomorrow In Sydney I Bet It Wouldn't Be A camera Taking Shots Off Him !!

 

It will always go the way it did and it is correct way ,forget the films this is real life, it was sad life's were lost but that was they only way they were going to go in was rounds were fired or they felt it was the only way to get people out alive ,up to then yes the threat was there but that's all it was all,these scum normally kill first then ask questions it wasn't like that this time .....why? more things to think about ?.................there's a thousand and one factors to consider , would you like to be the bloke on the ground who says go go go and the scum presses the tit and kills the lot in there ?they didn't know how many hostages were in there for a good few hours ,he was threatening there was bombs in there and outside ,how do they know this was true or not ?...........of course everybody would like it to be over within minutes who wouldn't ? or a sniper to shoot him dead straight through the window but that's all chances and maybes or what ifs and they wont take them chances and rightly so.......

Edited December 16, 2014 by DEERMAN

[mushroom 12,918]

Ah bless Truther if we all held views like you re the horrible Brits raping and pillaging we'd be fuckedd! I work with about 10 Germans should o hate them for what their grandparents got up to??? I mean it was not that long ago was it so yeah maybe I should start a murder campaign

 

you and your type are pathetic apologists next you'll be pratteling on about slavery ffs.

[pesky1972 5,243]

Ah bless Truther if we all held views like you re the horrible Brits raping and pillaging we'd be fuckedd! I work with about 10 Germans should o hate them for what their grandparents got up to??? I mean it was not that long ago was it so yeah maybe I should start a murder campaign

 

you and your type are pathetic apologists next you'll be pratteling on about slavery ffs.

The question asked was nothing to do with the Germans or their grandparents. The question the guy asked was...

"What if a peaceful muslim who didn't follow or condone the extreme parts of islam was sat in his house with his wife and kids, in his own country, and a shell fired by the yanks hit his house killing his family, does he have the right to take revenge on the west?"

 

Does he? Or does he at least have the right not to like 'us'? Are we so narcissistic that we can't accept that some people might not actually fcuking like us?

 

Are you people so much in denial of the facts that you can't even understand that it's the actions of Western goverments that have 'radicalised' so many...., nothing to do with what's written in the Quran?

[DEERMAN 1,020]

 

Ah bless Truther if we all held views like you re the horrible Brits raping and pillaging we'd be fuckedd! I work with about 10 Germans should o hate them for what their grandparents got up to??? I mean it was not that long ago was it so yeah maybe I should start a murder campaign

 

you and your type are pathetic apologists next you'll be pratteling on about slavery ffs.

The question asked was nothing to do with the Germans or their grandparents. The question the guy asked was...

"What if a peaceful muslim who didn't follow or condone the extreme parts of islam was sat in his house with his wife and kids, in his own country, and a shell fired by the yanks hit his house killing his family, does he have the right to take revenge on the west?"

 

Does he? Or does he at least have the right not to like 'us'? Are we so narcissistic that we can't accept that some people might not actually fcuking like us?

 

Are you people so much in denial of the facts that you can't even understand that it's the actions of Western goverments that have 'radicalised' so many...., nothing to do with what's written in the Quran?

 

what actions are you talking about?

[pesky1972 5,243]

 

And yet again the condemnation from the Muslim world is deafening

It said earlier today ,,,that lots of Muslim groups in oz,,,had condemn it mush

 

Leading muslims have indeed spoken out to condemn this atrocity. I've also seen a couple of 'ordinary' muslims interviewed in the street who basically also said that this was a senseless act and didn't represent either them as muslims or islam.

 

No matter, we should probably blame Australia's half a million muslims for the actions of this one nutcase.

[DEERMAN 1,020]

 

 

And yet again the condemnation from the Muslim world is deafening

It said earlier today ,,,that lots of Muslim groups in oz,,,had condemn it mush

 

Leading muslims have indeed spoken out to condemn this atrocity. I've also seen a couple of 'ordinary' muslims interviewed in the street who basically also said that this was a senseless act and didn't represent either them as muslims or islam.

 

No matter, we should probably blame Australia's half a million muslims for the actions of this one nutcase.

 

what actions are western governments doing to cause these people to be radicalized ?

[mushroom 12,918]

ah the other apolgist...

 

Sorry when was the last time we, the Aussies or anyone bombed Iran Pesky??

[twobob 1,497]

 

Ah bless Truther if we all held views like you re the horrible Brits raping and pillaging we'd be fuckedd! I work with about 10 Germans should o hate them for what their grandparents got up to??? I mean it was not that long ago was it so yeah maybe I should start a murder campaign

 

you and your type are pathetic apologists next you'll be pratteling on about slavery ffs.

The question asked was nothing to do with the Germans or their grandparents. The question the guy asked was...

"What if a peaceful muslim who didn't follow or condone the extreme parts of islam was sat in his house with his wife and kids, in his own country, and a shell fired by the yanks hit his house killing his family, does he have the right to take revenge on the west?"

 

Does he? Or does he at least have the right not to like 'us'? Are we so narcissistic that we can't accept that some people might not actually fcuking like us?

 

Are you people so much in denial of the facts that you can't even understand that it's the actions of Western goverments that have 'radicalised' so many...., nothing to do with what's written in the Quran?

 

brainwashed from a early age now thats a FACT

[mushroom 12,918]

Twobob you'll never convince these self loathers mate. All they are interested in allowing this shit to continue because of something we westerners apparently did/do that justifies it

[mushroom 12,918]

Well I'll bet my left bollock Pesky/Truther that these people taken hostage and mudered were complete innocents! You guys are as bad as that feckin councillor saying that farmer deserved to kill himself!

[DEERMAN 1,020]

Pakistan Attack 40 students injured ....Wests fault

Edited December 16, 2014 by DEERMAN

[mushroom 12,918]

Of course it is. It's because we split the warring Hindus and Muslims into pakistan and India however many years ago

 

Throughout out the millenia Islam has been villified by everyone else, I wonder why

 

Hard done to perhaps????