Kosher slaughter

[ginga john 268]

On Sky 3 at the mo, Kosher slaughterer trying to explain why the animals being slaughtered by having their throats cut feel no pain and die immediately, then showed pics of an animal tring to "Moo" with no throat!!

what a load of self serving bollocks, the Jews and the Muslims are as bad as each other, no stunning just a slash across the jugulars and wait.

 

And they say that the ban on fox hunting was prompted by animal welfare issues, i have never treated any animal i have hunted and caught with any of the barbarism that these people do.

 

Does that make me a racist? hope not, i hope that things like this will prompt a bit of action from like minded people when the "gay gordon" dances his last tune at the next election.

 

What is this Fuc**ing country coming to? the indigenous peoples are side lined while the religious barbarians are pandered to, Oh bugger it all, i'm going to become a muslim, sign on with the excuse that my religion wont let me serve the infidels, if that doesn't work i'll become a Jew and buy a premier league football club with some-one elses money!!!!

 

Wish i had gone to work now

[Brummy 9]

Well said ginga.

 

You should however know by now that Muslims and above all Jews are exempt from critical analysis. Doing so attracts the pointing fingers of the treacherous cowardly liberals who hate themselves and our country so much they would rather be enslaved by such filth.

 

The communist Brown will show his True colours in time............... 60% tax rates will be the start of it

 

Welcome to REALITY.........

[cúagusgiorraí 57]

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Edited August 31, 2008 by cúagusgiorraí

[kurgan 5]

I had this out with a load of ethnics in work to tell you the truth they had no idea how they meat was slaughterd ,they were quick enough to call me allsorts for killing rabbits and such but denied everything i told them about kosher meat.

[Groverdog 0]

I totally agree its the most barbaric way to kill an animal. I work for sa slaughterhouse and the animals have the most humane death possible. Religion is no excuse for traeting an animal this way. Cant imagine anything more stressful than having your throat cut. We killed a cockeral at the weekend for the table and uppermost was the cocern for it to be stree free and humane as possible first for the animals sake then for tastes sake. Cant see how the meat would be very nice from a stressed animal. But then we are the barbaric ones think NOT!!

[gaz 284]

Oh i dunno so much..........look im not looking for a argument here but i think sometimes a lot of people are too pc about things as im thinking there will be more animals slaughtered this way around the world than in our well run,sterile clean slaughterhouses,not all people have the facilities to stunn a animal before it gets the old capt and bolt ect,which is run like a well oiled machine.

 

Animals have been slaugtered for millenia by man for food and skins ect,and now for a reasonably short space of time we have a tried and tested way of killing with minimal stress (which i think is a good thing )here with us being a richer country,now we think we should be preaching to every other fecker on the planet how they should be doing things,when all they have is a big fecking sharp knife to go about their work,also im thinking if people have a culture,religion or faith that dates thousands of years,well....... all well and good to them as it wasnt that long ago we were killing them just the same way,prob your grandfathers were slaugtering livestock in a similar fashion.

 

One last thought on the matter for anybody with a opinion on this,have you ever had to kill a deer that your lurcher has took down .............

[Guest Macnas]

I can't confirm that every slaughter house has this facility, but the one nearest to me has a device which is acceptable to halaal and is humane. It combines stunning with throat cutting and satisfies the requirement to bleed the beast before the heart stops beating, albeit on a pure technicality.

[COMPO 54]

I can't confirm that every slaughter house has this facility, but the one nearest to me has a device which is acceptable to halaal and is humane. It combines stunning with throat cutting and satisfies the requirement to bleed the beast before the heart stops beating, albeit on a pure technicality.

 

 

yes i know a lad who is a free lance shepherd and conveys a lot of sheep to the abatoirs, he told me about something similar in a halal butchery in Birmingham he said the sheep went through screens on a conveyer belt, they went up on this belt stood there oblivious, as they went through the last screen, the Iman said his words over it, then it was stunned and its throat cut with some such device....he said it was very peaceful and that calming music was played which seemed to quieten the sheep and that he even rated it better than a standard Abbatoir!

 

Although i also remember a cattle market in Yorkshire which was closed down as the muslims were salughtering goats in the car park

[Blaze 49]

One last thought on the matter for anybody with a opinion on this,have you ever had to kill a deer that your lurcher has took down .............

 

Exactly what i was thinking before i got to your post!....

[Groverdog 0]

ive seen my partner cut the throat of a deer and it was in my own mind horrific. But i think thats because i would hate to die that way myself. Shouldnt put the human feeling element into an animal i know. Im a total hypocrit anyway cos i dont want to die by posion but i happily put down posion for rats.

[Brummy 9]

I'd just like to add that I'm not particularly alarmed by the animal welfare angle of the argument as that would make me a rank hypocrite as I favour throat cutting as a means of despatch where appropriate myself.

However from a politically hypocritical angle I find the fact that it is allowed to go on unchecked most unpaletable. Where are all the red haired vegans screaming murder ? Fcuking nowhere because their morals are so twisted they couldn't bear to upset poor little ragheads or pitiful little yids.......... SICKENING !!! The government the same................

 

But if you want to discriminate against our tribe (Hunters) feel free :censored:

[Sako.243 1]

Well said mate.

[martin 332]

As a slaughterman for well over 20yrs,I would just like to say that,for people that know very little about the actual act of humane slaughtering then,to see a jewish(Kosher)slaughter is to see a person with an immense amount of skill at work,and,they do take an immense amount of pride in their work,which is something that is sadly lacking woth most of our workers.I always thought that both Halal and Kosher slaughtering techniques were archaic,but,when you witness them first hand,the skills of these people are without question 'TOP NOTCH'!! And,sadly I have seen a hell of a lot of our own slaughtermen that certainly leave a hell of a lot to be desired.And just for GAZ.....there is no stun before the captive bolt,because that is the stun.

[ginga john 268]

As a slaughterman for well over 20yrs,I would just like to say that,for people that know very little about the actual act of humane slaughtering then,to see a jewish(Kosher)slaughter is to see a person with an immense amount of skill at work,and,they do take an immense amount of pride in their work,which is something that is sadly lacking woth most of our workers.I always thought that both Halal and Kosher slaughtering techniques were archaic,but,when you witness them first hand,the skills of these people are without question 'TOP NOTCH'!! And,sadly I have seen a hell of a lot of our own slaughtermen that certainly leave a hell of a lot to be desired.And just for GAZ.....there is no stun before the captive bolt,because that is the stun.

 

Thanks for the reasoned reply martin and the rabi's doing the cutting went to great pains to explain how good they were, but the point is if we ( the great unwashed) have to stun our animals before blood letting then why is there an exception that is contrary to accepted animal welfare standards just because of some archaic religious belief?

Surely in our society we adhere to accepted practices regarding the treatment of animals prior and during slaughter so why are there exceptions? it really is one rule for them and another for the rest of us.

I take your point regarding the dexterity of the slaughterman with his knife, but to simply bleed a fully concious animal is at obvious odds with our "usual" standard of welfare, maybe this is just another example in a very long line of instances that occur for the benefit of minority groups and no-one else.

[speedlamper 0]

you dont see any anti's protesting about it

 

 

shame theextremists on both sides could blow each other up