colliejohn 840 Posted December 19, 2014 Report Share Posted December 19, 2014 (edited) I,ve got the black bitch out of the litter she will be 8 weeks this sunday, she is a very bright pup, like i said earlier on this thread, there is nothing out there ofthis quality lineage being bred,infact there aint alot of genuine collie greyhounds being bred out there. regards collie john. How do you know? Is it that EVERYONE breeding Collie Greyhound crosses contacts you to let you know and if they do how do you then go about verifying they're genuine or not? Just curious. Apart from David Hancock, who breeds mostly beardie/border crosses and who,s dogs aint personally my cup of tea, there aint many litters of genuine collie greyhounds being bred, theres plenty of lurchers being bred that may have a touch of collie in them outcrossed to bitza types, but there aint alot that are genuine collie greyhounds being bred, especially with the lines of the litter that my mate Terry bred. regards collie john. Edited December 19, 2014 by colliejohn Quote Link to post
foresterj 1,096 Posted December 19, 2014 Report Share Posted December 19, 2014 Nope, still doesn't explain how you know this to be anything other than opinion and generalisation. Quote Link to post
FUJI 17,324 Posted December 19, 2014 Report Share Posted December 19, 2014 I know the old collie x grey is tried and tested but I went the route of lurcher x collie..afterall what has a greyhound to offer that a good genuine lurcher hasn't? All a greyhound has to offer is speed and even that is in the main only obtained on a sanded,rolled track where they only run in a clockwise direction..a good fast lurcher surely has atleast the equal of that to bring to the table? Obviously barring hare coursing which is illegal now anyway id personally not be hoodwinked into thinking that a collie x HAS to have nothing other than it and greyhound blood to make them superlative to a cur bitza..just my thoughts folks,im not looking for arguments. .its xmas time lol 9 Quote Link to post
colliejohn 840 Posted December 19, 2014 Report Share Posted December 19, 2014 Nope, still doesn't explain how you know this to be anything other than opinion and generalisation. Well its my own personal opinion pal, and its each to their own .regards collie john. Quote Link to post
Giro 2,648 Posted December 19, 2014 Report Share Posted December 19, 2014 (edited) I am sat I watching a DVD of daytime hares in muirkirk 1986 there is 11 hares caught all with colliex greys of some type of another every one was bread local to me then is fishing on the earn tweed Tay grayling salmon ect some lads are no longer hear then some shooting stalking deer grouse fesse rabbit and roe I wonder if they no any of them to forester atb edrd Are you mates with Whin ?? That was almost him to the letter bar ne lobster pots.. Its Phessies - Fesse mate Edited December 19, 2014 by Giro 2 Quote Link to post
lurcher330 2,297 Posted December 19, 2014 Report Share Posted December 19, 2014 Tipps ,12 year's old still doing a bit...his dam was a 1st x collie/greyhound his sire a full coursing greyhound...was a great allrounder. 6 Quote Link to post
dogs-n-natives 1,182 Posted December 20, 2014 Report Share Posted December 20, 2014 I know the old collie x grey is tried and tested but I went the route of lurcher x collie..afterall what has a greyhound to offer that a good genuine lurcher hasn't? All a greyhound has to offer is speed and even that is in the main only obtained on a sanded,rolled track where they only run in a clockwise direction..a good fast lurcher surely has atleast the equal of that to bring to the table? Obviously barring hare coursing which is illegal now anyway id personally not be hoodwinked into thinking that a collie x HAS to have nothing other than it and greyhound blood to make them superlative to a cur bitza..just my thoughts folks,im not looking for arguments. .its xmas time lol I really am on your wavelength buddy. +1 Quote Link to post
Phil Lloyd 10,738 Posted December 20, 2014 Report Share Posted December 20, 2014 (edited) I know the old collie x grey is tried and tested but I went the route of lurcher x collie..afterall what has a greyhound to offer that a good genuine lurcher hasn't? All a greyhound has to offer is speed and even that is in the main only obtained on a sanded,rolled track where they only run in a clockwise direction..a good fast lurcher surely has atleast the equal of that to bring to the table? Obviously barring hare coursing which is illegal now anyway id personally not be hoodwinked into thinking that a collie x HAS to have nothing other than it and greyhound blood to make them superlative to a cur bitza..just my thoughts folks,im not looking for arguments. .its xmas time lol This is an interesting discussion.. Personaly,...I feel that is wasteful to become,... too kennel blind... I have used all shapes and sizes of crossbreed hunting dogs,..but have remained a staunch supporter of the herding breeds..I find them easy to handle........ I understand them... However,..I think that it is foolish to own something that is, in reality,.of no fecking use... Facts are, what is suitable for one part of the country,...might not be as handy in another... Nowadays, I prefer to work alongside dogs that favour the tasks set before them,..and if this means crossing various miscellaneous canines into the mix (other than the traditional Greyhound )..then it makes sense to do so... The Greyhound is a wonderful creature,. it is the great leveler for sorting out a mish/mash of pedigree unknown, Heinze 57's But,...we should never be scared of trying to create a specialist jukel for the job in hand,...regardless of whos' noted bloodlines are in their linage.. All the best,..and good hunting to you all... Regards, Phil. Edited December 24, 2014 by Phil Lloyd 7 Quote Link to post
dogmad riley 1,344 Posted December 20, 2014 Report Share Posted December 20, 2014 This is the sire a dog that takes all quarry on all ground ,and with a prey drive that would put any cross to shame. He is at home on big land , woodland, dales or mountains. But his tump card is his ability to follow a sent line at a speed some dogs struggle to run at. That is a fine example of a lurcher. Looks well. How tall is he? Quote Link to post
Dunkanon 380 Posted December 20, 2014 Report Share Posted December 20, 2014 Heres a few pics of my mates 9 yr old collie lurcher showing the younger whippet x how its done. Hes a first class ferreting and daytime little dog and catches more than his fair share even at his advanced yrs. 3 Quote Link to post
RossM 8,119 Posted December 20, 2014 Report Share Posted December 20, 2014 Cracking thread folks... Quote Link to post
gvc 491 Posted December 20, 2014 Report Share Posted December 20, 2014 This is the sire a dog that takes all quarry on all ground ,and with a prey drive that would put any cross to shame. He is at home on big land , woodland, dales or mountains. But his tump card is his ability to follow a sent line at a speed some dogs struggle to run at. That is a fine example of a lurcher. Looks well. How tall is he?He is about 26" I've not measured him to be honest. Here are s few more of him. 9 Quote Link to post
gvc 491 Posted December 20, 2014 Report Share Posted December 20, 2014 And a couple more. 10 Quote Link to post
Maximus Ferret 2,063 Posted December 20, 2014 Report Share Posted December 20, 2014 gvc, that's the best looking half cross I've seen in a while. 4 Quote Link to post
dogmad riley 1,344 Posted December 20, 2014 Report Share Posted December 20, 2014 gvc, that's the best looking half cross I've seen in a while. Second that, looks tough and racy, great example 1 Quote Link to post
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