fats 317 Posted December 11, 2014 Report Share Posted December 11, 2014 hello does anybody on hear work this cross? any pics. i was thinking bout useing this cross on my 3/4 grey 1/4 collir any info appreciated Quote Link to post
Meeks 153 Posted December 11, 2014 Report Share Posted December 11, 2014 Awrite mate.have a wee look on the ferreting discussion page theres a post 'leather net bags' on it theres a link to simon whiteheads las test film,his friend,I believe is called torchie has this cross of dog and you get to see it work.theres also more vids of him on youtube with the dog working.atb Quote Link to post
Brigzy 1,298 Posted December 11, 2014 Report Share Posted December 11, 2014 Not a mathematician, but wont you end up with half crosses ? Some of them will throw to the collie, some will throw to the greyhound ..... Bit of a lottery. 1 Quote Link to post
fats 317 Posted December 11, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2014 ill hv a look meeks cheers.yeah your probly right brigzy but i think it would be worth the risk Quote Link to post
border lad 1,047 Posted December 11, 2014 Report Share Posted December 11, 2014 well just a wee short story, A past mate of mine in the mid 70s, mated a 3/4 grey 1/4 collie over a first cross collie grey, he wanted me to take a pup off him and I said, you are only breeding rabbit dogs, any way time went on and my good dog recieved a bad injury, so The mate brought down this young dog about 5 months old black with a white blaze, he had length, and I could see he was going to make the 26" mark, he said this is the pup that I wanted you to have, he is for you if you want him,I said ok I will take him and see if I can make something of him, well Lads, that young pup started killing, rabbits,, at about 7 months of age, on his own, and carrying them back to my house, in those days my young dogs run free in my Yard, there was couple of stables in the yard, the young dog slept in the straw bales that i kept there for bedding the horses,by 12 months old he was taken hares, and carrying them back to the yard, he could hunt a field as good as any springer spaniel, A natural retriever, to hand or to the house, as said in those days he was free to roam, No problems with dog thieves, not around our way in those days, that dog had pace, Stamina, and a great mouth to strike and for carrying, he had tight collie feet, in truth the dog was just a natural, basically, self taught, I was so busy with my work I only had time for him at the weekends, that dog was a treat to have and own, 13 Quote Link to post
Mustelid 143 Posted December 11, 2014 Report Share Posted December 11, 2014 He sounds a cracker Border Lad. Quote Link to post
colliejohn 840 Posted December 12, 2014 Report Share Posted December 12, 2014 (edited) I have two offspring out of Torchies Dan, my dog also called Dan, which i bred using Dan to my bitch Gwen, who is 9/16,s collie, 7/16,s greyhound, he is turning out to be a very good both in the day, and on the lamp, had him upto Canna with me this year, whilst working on the Big Rabbit Job, i also have a 7 week old bitch pup out of him to my old friend the late Typp Ratcher bred 3/4 greyhound, a 1/4 collie bred bitch, owned by my mate, these pups are like first crosses on paper, i prefer collie saturated bred dogs, most collie greyhounds being bred today are no more than collie marked greyhounds with poor coats, bad feet, snipey greyhoundy heads, there not for me. regards collie john. Edited December 12, 2014 by colliejohn 7 Quote Link to post
fats 317 Posted December 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2014 I like the sound of that border lad. Collie john have you any pics please are any of your dogs up for stud ? Quote Link to post
heritage 202 Posted December 12, 2014 Report Share Posted December 12, 2014 Fats,..... If your interested to see what collie johns dog looks like take a look at the video clips I've just put up..... Torchie is on all 3 along with his dog "Dan",.. This will give you some idea as to the stamp as there pretty much identical. Quote Link to post
adam198055 0 Posted December 13, 2014 Report Share Posted December 13, 2014 I have two offspring out of Torchies Dan, my dog also called Dan, which i bred using Dan to my bitch Gwen, who is 9/16,s collie, 7/16,s greyhound, he is turning out to be a very good both in the day, and on the lamp, had him upto Canna with me this year, whilst working on the Big Rabbit Job, i also have a 7 week old bitch pup out of him to my old friend the late Typp Ratcher bred 3/4 greyhound, a 1/4 collie bred bitch, owned by my mate, these pups are like first crosses on paper, i prefer collie saturated bred dogs, most collie greyhounds being bred today are no more than collie marked greyhounds with poor coats, bad feet, snipey greyhoundy heads, there not for me. regards collie john how is how is your pup doing john ? mines a big bugger an clever to for his age . i seen the whole litter [BANNED TEXT] you picked yours up an to be honest its the best litter I've seen in a while a.t.b Adam Quote Link to post
Mustelid 143 Posted December 13, 2014 Report Share Posted December 13, 2014 Those pups sound great. As Collie John said, that litter out of the 3/4 greyhound 1/4 collie bitch to Dan would work out pretty much half crosses. Any pups left? There's a litter not far from me in this weeks Counteymans, first cross collie greyhound back to a collie. Sound a nice litter, but I'm always thinking that a dog like that might not have enough speed. Does a 3/4 collie 1/4 greyhound offer more than a well bred first cross? Quote Link to post
mackay 3,364 Posted December 13, 2014 Report Share Posted December 13, 2014 Wouldn't say so Mustelid IMO first crosses have as much brain, substance and stamina as you will ever need, even racy first crosses which contrary to popular opinion do exist. Any one thinking of more collie than 50% would be as well considering a big leggy hill collie for all the difference there would be. 1 Quote Link to post
fats 317 Posted December 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2014 heritage that a good video great stamp of dog Quote Link to post
FUJI 17,324 Posted December 13, 2014 Report Share Posted December 13, 2014 Heavily saturated Collie crosses ain't for many people when it comes to a hunting companion..no they ain't going to impress on the Fens or on them big bunnies in the main but just about ANY other type of work you can throw at a lurcher then a heavily saturated Collie lurcher is capable of performing to a decent standard..i like having one around me, mine has the nigh on 3/4 Collie in him and the rest is just lurcher with hardly any Grey blood at all.Never faltered at what ive thrown at him..if it breathes from the smallest to our very largest he will do it,lamps,ferrets,hunts..don't be put off with all this bollox of being too slow in general.. 12 Quote Link to post
fats 317 Posted December 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2014 very nice strong looking dog Quote Link to post
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