Onlyworkmatters 1,584 Posted December 12, 2014 Report Share Posted December 12, 2014 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Kriss_Donald Sickening what they done to that wee lad and hardly anyone outside his family even remember it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pesky1972 5,364 Posted December 12, 2014 Report Share Posted December 12, 2014 (edited) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Kriss_Donald Sickening what they done to that wee lad and hardly anyone outside his family even remember it I did, and if you read the report at the link I posted you'll see the residents of Glenochil haven't forgotten either Edited December 12, 2014 by pesky1972 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jacknife 2,005 Posted December 13, 2014 Report Share Posted December 13, 2014 The Lawrence memorial is there because he was black and killers white so a racist murder Switch it around and the killers are black or immigrants (even white immigrants) Some people will try and use any excuse available to defend or give reasons as to why its not their fault and actualy our causing Exactly, if its white on black its a racist crime, black on white its anything but, the same reason, the scum in power wont admit the Rotherham and other cities muslim child abusers targeted the girls based on race/colour. Read the first three words of the report. And this on the BBC....surely a mistake.http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-25982046 Lee Rigby wasn't killed because he was white, he was killed because he was a British soldier. I think it's just as likely he'd have been killed that day if he'd been black. Would Stephen Lawrence have been murdered that night if he'd been white? Problem is you only see what you want to see, and hear what you want to hear. And how many people have heard of this murder...I haven't Had it been the other way round it would have been everywhere like lawrence 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pesky1972 5,364 Posted December 13, 2014 Report Share Posted December 13, 2014 The Lawrence memorial is there because he was black and killers white so a racist murder Switch it around and the killers are black or immigrants (even white immigrants) Some people will try and use any excuse available to defend or give reasons as to why its not their fault and actualy our causing Exactly, if its white on black its a racist crime, black on white its anything but, the same reason, the scum in power wont admit the Rotherham and other cities muslim child abusers targeted the girls based on race/colour. Read the first three words of the report. And this on the BBC....surely a mistake.http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-25982046 Lee Rigby wasn't killed because he was white, he was killed because he was a British soldier. I think it's just as likely he'd have been killed that day if he'd been black. Would Stephen Lawrence have been murdered that night if he'd been white? Problem is you only see what you want to see, and hear what you want to hear. And how many people have heard of this murder...I haven't Had it been the other way round it would have been everywhere like lawrence It's because you, and a few others on here, only hear what you want to hear. The case was massive in Scotland at the time, but was dealt with by the police & courts and the killers convicted. It was at the time, and always will be, regarded & reported in the media as a racially motivating murder. Some of the posts on this thread have suggested that race crime against white people isn't reported as such, well here's evidence that you're wrong...accept it. If you have evidence of a crime you believe was racially motivated but the media or authorities have tried to present it as something else then let's hear about it, otherwise all your whining about double standards is baseless. You can't compare the noteriety of Kriss Donald murder to the Lawrence case. The killers of Lawrence walked free from court prompting huge public outcry. People of all races were appalled that these animals were going to get away with it. The subsequent enquiry into the police investigation found that it was flawed..., that the police had failed in their duty to get justice for Stephen Lawrence & his family and were even accused of 'institutional racism'. It even led to a change in the double jeopardy law. The Stephen Lawrence murder case isn't 'everywhere' because the kid was black. It's because it looked like there wasn't going to be justice. If Kriss Donald's killers had initially walked free, and the reasons for it the same, then the public reaction and media coverage of it would have been the same. If you can't see that, then it's because you don't want to see. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
charlie caller 3,654 Posted December 13, 2014 Report Share Posted December 13, 2014 Bullsh*t, so if it was a white kid killed instead of st Lawrence of the bus stop, do you think the media would have played upon it like they have, do you think his mother would have been made a baroness? dont talk crap pal, in this country, in this day and age, if a black person is killed/beaten up, by whites, it is racially motivated, the other way round, it is hardly mentioned, its as plain as the nose on your face, remember only white people can be racist, in modern "cool" Britannia, if you believe any different I pity you, you are living in a fu**ing dream world. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pesky1972 5,364 Posted December 13, 2014 Report Share Posted December 13, 2014 Bullsh*t, so if it was a white kid killed instead of st Lawrence of the bus stop, do you think the media would have played upon it like they have, do you think his mother would have been made a baroness? dont talk crap pal, in this country, in this day and age, if a black person is killed/beaten up, by whites, it is racially motivated, the other way round, it is hardly mentioned, its as plain as the nose on your face, remember only white people can be racist, in modern "cool" Britannia, if you believe any different I pity you, you are living in a fu**ing dream world. "if it was a white kid killed instead of st Lawrence of the bus stop, do you think the media would have played upon it like they have" If the police had failed in doing their duty to get justice for a white kid because they were mostly black and some were prejudiced against white people then yes I do think that the media would have been all over it. "do you think his mother would have been made a baroness?" Fcuk only knows or cares, I don't give a fcuk if they make Stephen Lawrence's mother the first astronaut to step on Mars. I only care that in this country we have a police force and a justice system that provides justice for all British citizens, equally and regardless of the victims skin colour or religion. "if a black person is killed/beaten up, by whites, it is racially motivated, the other way round, it is hardly mentioned" Like I said in my post above, give me some examples. I've also explained why the Lawrence case had much more media coverage than say the murder of Kriss Donald. It's not because one life was worth any more than the other, but that they both deserved the same justice. "its as plain as the nose on your face, remember only white people can be racist, in modern "cool" Britannia, if you believe any different I pity you, you are living in a fu**ing dream world" You only see what you want to see and deny the rest because it doesn't suit your bitter and pathetic agenda. I'm dealing in facts Charlie boy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
charlie caller 3,654 Posted December 13, 2014 Report Share Posted December 13, 2014 Typical musings and bleating of a self hating liberal leftard, who knows that they have been rumbled, my bitter and pathetic agenda lol, if you mean trying to avoid England becoming a turd world melting pot then yes I am bitter, the problem with you "progressives" is you cant wait to see your own end, well carry on son, you have been rumbled Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pesky1972 5,364 Posted December 13, 2014 Report Share Posted December 13, 2014 Typical musings and bleating of a self hating liberal leftard, who knows that they have been rumbled, my bitter and pathetic agenda lol, if you mean trying to avoid England becoming a turd world melting pot then yes I am bitter, the problem with you "progressives" is you cant wait to see your own end, well carry on son, you have been rumbled "a self hating liberal leftard"??? I don't hate myself.., I'm not what most would describe as 'liberal' in any political sense..., and as for a 'leftard'..., well that's just your bog standard insult for anyone who isn't a hatemongering racist like yourself isn't it? All I've done is stated the facts and asked you to come back with some of your own so if anyone has been 'rumbled' then it's certainly not me England isn't now, and never in the future will be, the place you want it to be. That's also a fact..., and one it gives me great pleasure to announce to you These lands have always 'progressed' down the ages, and will continue to do so, whether you and your ilk like it or not. I bet that if you'd lived 200 years ago that you'd still have been one of those whined & complained about everything..., constantly trying to blame someone or something for your own shortcomings in life. People like you are a blight on, and a fcukin hinderance to our society. It might be best if you were to fcuk off to some 'flyblown shithole' (that would really give you something to moan about) and let us get on with it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pesky1972 5,364 Posted December 13, 2014 Report Share Posted December 13, 2014 Pesky controlled immigration of the right law abiding folk is ok Uncontrolled immigration of the types who want our downfall ain't ok by a long chalk Hopefully if bad things have to happen to Brits by these undesirable immigrants it's towards you and yours and people like you and not against those many many millions that don't want uncontrolled and un vetted illegal immigration. Max, I don't disagree with what I think you're trying to say. I don't think I've ever stated my own views on our governments immigration policy on here, and will save that for a more appropriate thread maybe, but fair to say I have 'issues'. 'Uncontrolled and unvetted' immigration isn't what I'm about either. Maybe it's the term 'undesirable immigrant' I'd have an issue with. Most on this thread see no immigrant as desirable...but more especially if they're black or muslim. Am I wrong? I think it's unfair to make out all muslims are terrorists and, in line with the point of this thread, that all Africans are savages. I say what I think and am branded unpatriotic and an apologist. Is that fair or accurate? I've merely stated facts as I know them and asked for others to weigh in with theirs to the debate. This thread is about a boy butchered by his own mother...but why? Was it some ritualistic sacrifice, or was his mother severely ill in the head. I don't know any more than you or anyone else on here does, and will reserve my judgement until the facts come out. Leave the rest of you to burn her at the stake. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
charlie caller 3,654 Posted December 13, 2014 Report Share Posted December 13, 2014 (edited) Racist Pesky? Kindly point me to one overtly "racist" comment I have made, I await your guidance with baited breath.Edited to say, no I did not think so, anyone who displays any nationalist feelings,(well if they are English) is branded a racist by the likes of you, pathetic Edited December 13, 2014 by charlie caller Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pesky1972 5,364 Posted December 13, 2014 Report Share Posted December 13, 2014 (edited) You're not that stupid Charlie, I'll give you that, but you are a racist in my eyes. Or maybe you lack the courage to really say what you mean? My guess is that your eutopia would be an England where everyone was white and could trace their bloodline back to the angles or the saxons? Your posts don't suggest that you're tolerant or accepting of people of different colours or faiths. You can split hairs all day with my terminology but the bottom line is you are a bigot. The England you crave is a pipe dream. You would be better off spending your time trying to make a positive contribution to society than spending your days hating the world and ranting on hunting forums. You think it's nationalistic to persecute minority groups, the overwhelming majority of which are no threat to you or the 'nation'. Most decent English people would regard your views as bigoted and you as a bit of a nutter. Like I said, you're chasing an impossible dream which will ultimately only result in your unhappiness. It's never too late to admit you've made a mistake...flmao!!! Edited December 13, 2014 by pesky1972 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
charlie caller 3,654 Posted December 13, 2014 Report Share Posted December 13, 2014 Lack the courage! Nice try Pesky of course I am a racist in your eyes, as an Englishman, with nationalist leanings, how could I be anything else? I suppose (to show the other side of the coin) your idea of utopia, is a multicultural, enriched England, a mixing of all races and nationalities, where the ethnic English have been bred out of existence, indeed perhaps the whole of Europe, perhaps you would like to see England, or indeed Britain become a muslim country? Out of genuine curiosity, what exactly do you hope to gain from your viewpoint, or is it as I suspect that the joys of enrichment have not reached you yet? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lukey 1,621 Posted December 13, 2014 Report Share Posted December 13, 2014 So what about the young Glaswegian kid kidnapped off the street by Pakistani youths Drove around I think it was to Perth and back tortured all the way before being killed and dumped. Was that a Race Attack? Did his parents Milk it for all it was worth. ? Did his parents make a caterer out their sons death ? Did they seek profit from it ? Was there a memorial ? Open your eyes to see more clearly ? Stephen Lawrence's murder was tragic But the Media circus to score brownie points and gain financially was sick and smacked of double standards. http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=q58pVhMnGm8 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pesky1972 5,364 Posted December 13, 2014 Report Share Posted December 13, 2014 Lack the courage! Nice try Pesky of course I am a racist in your eyes, as an Englishman, with nationalist leanings, how could I be anything else? I suppose (to show the other side of the coin) your idea of utopia, is a multicultural, enriched England, a mixing of all races and nationalities, where the ethnic English have been bred out of existence, indeed perhaps the whole of Europe, perhaps you would like to see England, or indeed Britain become a muslim country? Out of genuine curiosity, what exactly do you hope to gain from your viewpoint, or is it as I suspect that the joys of enrichment have not reached you yet? Why does anyone need to be 'bred out of existence'? I don't have any problem with 'mixing of races' either, if you're not racist what's your problem with it? Define ethic English. Is there such a thing? This afternoon my daughter and her muslim friend decorated the Christmas tree in her room. The kid stays opposite us and her family have put up lights!! Maybe the joys of enrichment have reached me...they just haven't reached you yet! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pesky1972 5,364 Posted December 13, 2014 Report Share Posted December 13, 2014 So what about the young Glaswegian kid kidnapped off the street by Pakistani youths Drove around I think it was to Perth and back tortured all the way before being killed and dumped. Was that a Race Attack? Did his parents Milk it for all it was worth. ? Did his parents make a caterer out their sons death ? Did they seek profit from it ? Was there a memorial ? Open your eyes to see more clearly ? Stephen Lawrence's murder was tragic But the Media circus to score brownie points and gain financially was sick and smacked of double standards. http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=q58pVhMnGm8 He'll get his eventually. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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