Brigzy 1,298 Posted December 6, 2014 Report Share Posted December 6, 2014 Do you think the system is fair? Far as I'm aware brand is from a normal background and even if you think his over paid he earnt his money. I'm not anti farage but just can't see why everyone's so anti brand...you don't have to like him but don't you think the points he makes are valid? One thing he espouses is for us not to vote. If no one voted , then the government of the day would remain in power. So, not voting doesn't change anything. If he realy wants to change things, he should be telling everyone to vote, just not for the mainstream parties, that's the only thing that will make them sit up and take notice. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
beast 1,884 Posted December 6, 2014 Report Share Posted December 6, 2014 use emotive and simplified arguments in order to win public support. throw in a few statistics which support you rview (theyd ont have to be true because nobody watching is going to check them) and either bully and bluster when you are on the back foot or answer a slightly different questiont o the one you were asked a typical politicians debating tactics. BUT also russell brands debating tactics. he's not a very clever speaker, just relies on being loud and brash and appealling to the popular culture oh, and next time you watch him, have a dictionary to hand, you will find a lot of the flashy words brand uses are actually not used in anything like the right context, they are simply remembered by rote and thrown into the conversation almost randomly, to look clever. personally i would happily give him a good hiding. but then i could say the same thing about most politicians!! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
leegreen 2,167 Posted December 6, 2014 Report Share Posted December 6, 2014 Give him a good hiding? Bit strong. I'm sure he means well. Are you a bit angry today? Edited to say, you're right about the out of context words, makes things interesting Quote Link to post Share on other sites
beast 1,884 Posted December 6, 2014 Report Share Posted December 6, 2014 Give him a good hiding? Bit strong. I'm sure he means well. Are you a bit angry today? Edited to say, you're right about the out of context words, makes things interesting probably was a bit strong, but then i am ALWAYS angry...... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
undisputed 1,664 Posted December 6, 2014 Report Share Posted December 6, 2014 "Farage is a politician who wants to change Britain for the better, weather you like him or not, he means what he says. Brand is basically a failed comedian and actor, who needs the publicity to sell his books and keep him in the public eye ! Like Geldof and Bono, I'd have far more respect for him if he led the way by giving half his fortune to the causes he shouts about" Aye just like Farage who claimed ex amount of millions in expenses as a Euro mp and the same Farage who says he struggles on a combined income of over a hundred grand a year. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Truther 1,579 Posted December 6, 2014 Report Share Posted December 6, 2014 Do you think the system is fair? Far as I'm aware brand is from a normal background and even if you think his over paid he earnt his money. I'm not anti farage but just can't see why everyone's so anti brand...you don't have to like him but don't you think the points he makes are valid? If he's for letting every tom dick and harry into the UK, that's where me and Brand part company, but he makes good points imo. I don't know how he's got all the money? The little bit of his comedy and entertaining ive seen was complete shite, and he's a bit of a "non celeb" more famous for who he's shagged than talent, but if he talks sense that shouldn't come into it in my book. A lot of posters here seem to like the dog eat dog system, but sound jelouse of a nobody that made it, wish id failed as bad as Brand 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,773 Posted December 7, 2014 Report Share Posted December 7, 2014 (edited) The bloke is a little stage school prat who's points and opinions are no more or less interesting (and mostly not as good) as some of the lads you read on here every day. The place he comes from is a shining example of his "modern" Britain.......used to be a nice little main town where folk would go on Saturday to do their shopping etc........now its a multi cultural cess pit full of west Africans, Eastern Europeans, drug heads and all other forms of human detritus where the crime rate is shocking !! In short, it's a piss hole..........needless to say "Right On" Russ don't live there any more !!! Lol Edited December 7, 2014 by WILF 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ragumup Posted December 7, 2014 Report Share Posted December 7, 2014 Brand seems to think if you're a druggie you're a victim even though you started drugs of your own free will...He's a lefty with all the rubbish that goes with that, supporting mass immigration ,socialism etc etc and he's the sort you would see at an anti hunting/shooting rally ... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
walshie 2,804 Posted December 7, 2014 Report Share Posted December 7, 2014 Can't stand the man. Opinionated wanker who thinks people are interested in his slanted view of the world. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
twobob 1,497 Posted December 7, 2014 Report Share Posted December 7, 2014 self loathing must be terrible walshie 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Truther 1,579 Posted December 7, 2014 Report Share Posted December 7, 2014 Brand seems to think if you're a druggie you're a victim even though you started drugs of your own free will...He's a lefty with all the rubbish that goes with that, supporting mass immigration ,socialism etc etc and he's the sort you would see at an anti hunting/shooting rally ... Where does all this smack come from Rags, we can track down and use drones to kill insurgents willy nilly, but can't spot acres of opium poppies Not to mention having control of the country they grow in? I don't care about Brands private life, not my kind of bloke at all, but when he states the truth, like "no politician is trying to solve this country's problems" ill listen. Brigzy said Brand is a hypercrite, but ukip employ foreign workers to distribute their leaflets lmao, leaflets that bang on about British jobs for British workers That's off the scale of hypercritical! I think some are hoping ukip will solve the growing muslim problem, hardly likely when they have muslim mp's? And lets not forget the "champion of the people" Farage himself, the bloke who's going to put the "Great" back into Great Britain, gets caught trying to hide his own money and avoid tax Real trustworthy character eh lads The system is totally broken and corrupt, and when somebody stands up and tells it how it is, he's a wanker There's no hope. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brigzy 1,298 Posted December 7, 2014 Report Share Posted December 7, 2014 Once again, distorted facts about UKIP. They DIDN'T have foreigners delivering leaflets. They ordered their leaflets from a BRITISH company, who then subcontracted the order to a foreign company who printed them. UKIP weren't aware of this, and when it was pointed out to them, they have refused to deal with the company again. Farage isn't screaming for the re-distribution of wealth, as Brand is; if Brand wants to re-distribute the wealth why not be an example and start with his ? He is a hippoctite, because all this is just a publicity ploy to keep him in the public eye, and help him sell more books and make more money ! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Truther 1,579 Posted December 7, 2014 Report Share Posted December 7, 2014 Once again, distorted facts about UKIP. They DIDN'T have foreigners delivering leaflets. They ordered their leaflets from a BRITISH company, who then subcontracted the order to a foreign company who printed them. UKIP weren't aware of this, and when it was pointed out to them, they have refused to deal with the company again. Farage isn't screaming for the re-distribution of wealth, as Brand is; if Brand wants to re-distribute the wealth why not be an example and start with his ? He is a hippoctite, because all this is just a publicity ploy to keep him in the public eye, and help him sell more books and make more money ! You mean they came clean when they got caught at it, typical politicians, and no mention of farage hiding his own money? If Brand was a skint nobody he wouldn't be listened to like the rest of us, and i think pointing out the big companies just don't pay tax after making profits out of our population when the rest of us are hounded for every penny, hardly counts as asking for the redistribution of wealth, its "one law for everybody" nothing more. Face the fact that all politicians work for themselves, and the ruling minority, at the expense of the majority. If you're looking for any politician to sort the country out you'll be sadly disappointed mate. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
charlie caller 3,654 Posted December 7, 2014 Report Share Posted December 7, 2014 Just another champagne socialist w**ker, who likes to hear the sound of his own voice. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brigzy 1,298 Posted December 7, 2014 Report Share Posted December 7, 2014 Once again, distorted facts about UKIP. They DIDN'T have foreigners delivering leaflets. They ordered their leaflets from a BRITISH company, who then subcontracted the order to a foreign company who printed them. UKIP weren't aware of this, and when it was pointed out to them, they have refused to deal with the company again. Farage isn't screaming for the re-distribution of wealth, as Brand is; if Brand wants to re-distribute the wealth why not be an example and start with his ? He is a hippoctite, because all this is just a publicity ploy to keep him in the public eye, and help him sell more books and make more money ! You mean they came clean when they got caught at it, typical politicians, and no mention of farage hiding his own money? If Brand was a skint nobody he wouldn't be listened to like the rest of us, and i think pointing out the big companies just don't pay tax after making profits out of our population when the rest of us are hounded for every penny, hardly counts as asking for the redistribution of wealth, its "one law for everybody" nothing more. Face the fact that all politicians work for themselves, and the ruling minority, at the expense of the majority. If you're looking for any politician to sort the country out you'll be sadly disappointed mate. Are UKIP the answer, will they be just as corrupt as the others ? Who knows, but I'm so disillusioned with the lies of LibLabCon I'm willing to give them a chance. What's the alternative ? Champagne Socialists, Millionaire Anarchists ? Not for me ! I can see straight through the likes of Brand.. he only wants the publicity; and anyhow, I despise him and Ross for what they did to Andrew Sachs; neither of them should have been allowed back on our screens, purile, spoilt, rich people with very little real intelligence. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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