Cruciate Ligament Surgery.

[wirral countryman 2,110]

Its a pet dog at best after the operation, how can you pay for an expensive procedure like that, lurchers are working dogs and there are too many vets prepared to say anything to get their greedy hands on big bucks, I only ever use farm vets and they have always been straight with me, I have lost a few down the years through injury but that's the game we are in, I would never breed from injury prone dogs either as they must survive a rigorous testing life to earn that privelige, all I can think is that it must be insured, WM

[socks 32,253]

Its a pet dog at best after the operation, how can you pay for an expensive procedure like that, lurchers are working dogs and there are too many vets prepared to say anything to get their greedy hands on big bucks, I only ever use farm vets and they have always been straight with me, I have lost a few down the years through injury but that's the game we are in, I would never breed from injury prone dogs either as they must survive a rigorous testing life to earn that privelige, all I can think is that it must be insured, WM

If the young lad wants to take a chance on the pup then that's his business ... It's his first lurcher and he wants to try and do what's best for the dog and try and get it back out in the field ... Even if its only ever used as a ferreting dog around the nets then that's better than being sat in a pet home ... A bit more encouragement to new lads into the game would be helpfull rather than shitty comments ........

[nothernlite 18,089]

(quote name="wirral countryman" post="3803188" timestamp="1417720492"]Its a pet dog at best after the operation, how can you pay for an expensive procedure like that, lurchers are working dogs and there are too many vets prepared to say anything to get their greedy hands on big bucks, I only ever use farm vets and they have always been straight with me, I have lost a few down the years through injury but that's the game we are in, I would never breed from injury prone dogs either as they must survive a rigorous testing life to earn that privelige, all I can think is that it must be insured, WMmy thoughts as well

[wirral countryman 2,110]

Socks, I never had you down as a sentimental, its a tough game this and mollycoddling young lads will only produce more second rate dogmen and even poorer lurchers than are about now, I take a few newbies out in the course of a season but they are taught from the off that injuries can be "life ending" from the start, these are not pugs or pets, those that don't like it find something else, this is not a popularity contest and its people lining the pockets of vets that give false hope to newbies that are making owning a working dog expensive, next he will be saying that it was a good dog and I'll get a litter off it, dogs like all athletes need tendons, muscles, bones and working temperament fully testing in order to breed the next generation of athletes, breed a cripple and thats what you'll get, I'm surprised that a man of your obvious working credentials can let sentiment creep in, its a pet home and move on, the only thing I can understand you saying what you did is if you advised the lad previously on purchasing the dog or take him out with you regular, I hope the lads dog does make a full recovery but the odds are against it and preparing him for the worst is better than false hope, if he's not suited best find out early and not be like many on these web sites that have a yard full of half crippled dogs they breed off, I've always found good lurchers are good from the start and just get better with age, stupid dogs get smashed right through their working careers and go from 1 disaster to the next, GET REAL and man up, WM

[nothernlite 18,089]

Well said WM what I didn't like about my vet he said its cheaper to take the leg off but sometimes the truth helps instead of false hope

[Phil Lloyd 10,738]

Facts are,...Veterinary procedures are rarely cheap...

You can sometimes get away with things, if the Vet is a specialist 'running dog' man and understands your unique situation,..or you know him personaly and can have a deal.

 

Whatever,.. for a hunting man, the prognosis given to the pet dog fraturnity,of "the dog will be able to lead a fairly normal life,"...is a far cry from being informed ," he won't ever run again" .

 

We need to know,...and that is the difficult bit...

 

Cruciates are always bad news....££££££

Edited December 5, 2014 by Phil Lloyd

[socks 32,253]

Socks, I never had you down as a sentimental, its a tough game this and mollycoddling young lads will only produce more second rate dogmen and even poorer lurchers than are about now, I take a few newbies out in the course of a season but they are taught from the off that injuries can be "life ending" from the start, these are not pugs or pets, those that don't like it find something else, this is not a popularity contest and its people lining the pockets of vets that give false hope to newbies that are making owning a working dog expensive, next he will be saying that it was a good dog and I'll get a litter off it, dogs like all athletes need tendons, muscles, bones and working temperament fully testing in order to breed the next generation of athletes, breed a cripple and thats what you'll get, I'm surprised that a man of your obvious working credentials can let sentiment creep in, its a pet home and move on, the only thing I can understand you saying what you did is if you advised the lad previously on purchasing the dog or take him out with you regular, I hope the lads dog does make a full recovery but the odds are against it and preparing him for the worst is better than false hope, if he's not suited best find out early and not be like many on these web sites that have a yard full of half crippled dogs they breed off, I've always found good lurchers are good from the start and just get better with age, stupid dogs get smashed right through their working careers and go from 1 disaster to the next, GET REAL and man up, WM

Get real and man up lol FFS .... You don't know the lads circumstances and don't know his plans ... Your presuming he will keep the dog forever and he may breed off it ... There is a reason that he is having the op done and its got nothing to do with sentiment ... He also knows that it may not work and if it doesn't he will have to re think his plans .... The lad has also gone to a specialist in this field not a run of the mill vet ........

[Qbgrey 4,160]

At least the boys putting in the research and got money to look after his dog.not like some who keep em in freezing kennels .no wormers etc then come Fri night run the mothers out of them then if they get injured just leave it in the field.iyd called responsibility.breeding off it no.but he's not mentioned he will.

[matt101 115]

Well this has all developed a lot since I checked in last lol. I may have been a bit unrealistic with how well her recovery will go but that's why I put this post up in the first place, so I can get opinions from people who have been in the same situation.

 

I am aware that she's never going to be 100% again and that the op might be less successful than I hope, but as she's so young and I made the decision to get her and bring her on in the first place, I feel like I should at least give her a chance to gain some sort of working ability. Not to mention she's got to be in pain with the torn ligament and the surgery should sort that out hopefully.

 

I never intended to breed off this bitch in the first place let alone now she's injured and I won't get to see her full potential. So no need to get into that discussion.

 

I never expect Her to be a top notch dog after this but if she can catch the odd bunny and help when ferreting I'll be happy. She's also half decent working with the gun so she still has her uses.

 

As socks said (thanks socks) I have been to a specialist who is aware of the situation and what she is used for and he still thinks it will do the trick so I think it's worth a go considering his experience. Better in my eyes than just discarding her straight away.

 

 

I guess we will find out whether the surgery was worth it in the coming months.

 

 

Atb

Edited December 7, 2014 by matt101

[nothernlite 18,089]

good luck to you matt just out of couriosity matt i was quoted between 2,000 and 3,000 for the op and im not insured did your vet give you a price for the op ? and fair play to you for trying

[matt101 115]

Cheers mate. He quoted 1800 for the op. Think it's weight dependant.

[nothernlite 18,089]

Cheers mate. He quoted 1800 for the op. Think it's weight dependant.

no that dear good luck

[Qbgrey 4,160]

Good on you.don't listen to the hard as nails get rid soon as any prob develop s lurcher men....my arse.I would not let some of these tools look after a stuffed dog.

[nothernlite 18,089]

Good on you.don't listen to the hard as nails get rid soon as any prob develop s lurcher men....my arse.I would not let some of these tools look after a stuffed dog

 

 

 

just read all the replys and where did anyone say get rid and dont see anyone being hard or trying to act hard apart from you with your name calling :laugh: :laugh:

Edited December 5, 2014 by nothernlite