whipbed 42 Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 my bedy/whippet runs silent but will give a small yip if a rabbit has escaped to ground . it,s definatley frustration but he,s quiet on the next runs . so i agrre with all thats been said about entering too soon as he would probably have developed the problem of opening up as soon as he started to run as has happened to a mates dog. i ,m not concerned with the odd yip and also agree that the habbit can develop in any dog. is the problem of opening up describing the odd yip or are folks having problems with dogs making a noise as soon as they start to run? Quote Link to post
Moorside 642 Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 I dont think its all about frustration yips come from excitement too. Id rather have a dog that gets revved up and wants to knock over whats infront of it over a "brainy" type that picks its own runs and pulls up on hedges etc. 4 Quote Link to post
whipbed 42 Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 Fair point mate Quote Link to post
morton 5,368 Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 always found it odd as digging beddys often worked muteSome did many did not,as with any terrier type.The majority of Beddy hybrid lurchers are bred from KC bedlingtons that have no work ethic whatsoever,again the majority,thus a poor working start for any progeny,then we have to look at some of the Whippets used in the production?,thus both sides of the breeding is often of lesser quality than we may wish for.Hybrid vigour evens this out some what,it must do because many of these dross bred mutts make little crackerjacks at work,thus the kennel these dogs end up in will play a major part in how the pups development pans out. Quote Link to post
shepp 2,285 Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 My pure beddy is silent when bushing. Just vocal at home when she wants something. Quote Link to post
Marvel 469 Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 My mate and me got two first cross grey/beddys from heart break fell kennels nearly twenty year ago, they were small [ 22in, 23in ] and not the quickest, but due to there great nose work they often put up game that they were never going to catch in a million years and never once did they open up. The one at 23in, my mates dog lined a whippet and all the pups we seen working from that litter were mute, we later found out the whippet they used screamed like a banshee on everything. The biggest dog from that litter went on to line a greyhound and a grey/bull and all the pups from those litters that wee seen run never made peep and I know that some of those pups went to the young team in Kilmarnock and were run at an early age. Some say it depends what you put them to but in my experience you use a very good mute digging beddy to start of your line Me and three or four guy on this site have just got pups from a line of grey/beddys going back 35 plus years, I think there roughly 3/8thbeddy 5/8thgrey I know the first cross dog that lined the 3/4grey 1/4beddy bitch, his sire is a beddy from a long line of digging dogs so am sure the guys will keep everybody up to date with any feed back about any yapping, and the question whether they do teeth or not 4 Quote Link to post
Bluestaff 11 Posted December 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 So if i dont start the pup to early and dont start her on hard slips etc i should be alrite aslong as the yapping isnt already in her ? I was thinking about having her round fully netted up warrens to start and let her mouth a few , would this be a good aproach ? Matt 1 Quote Link to post
nothernlite 18,089 Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 With out a doubt Bluestaff that's how I start all my pups and I start them early 5 or 6 months and never had a yapper 2 Quote Link to post
Gaz_1989 9,539 Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 I dont think its all about frustration yips come from excitement too. Id rather have a dog that gets revved up and wants to knock over whats infront of it over a "brainy" type that picks its own runs and pulls up on hedges etc.That comes down to the individual then and that famous line - each to their own. I would rather a silent dog that pulls up at hedges and picks the odd run than a yapper that crashes through cover and flies down the beam like a rocket. Quote Link to post
s.e.s.k.u 1,893 Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 Anyone using the beddy x got any pics of the beddys used for breeding? Don't see many about other than the kc type..my wifes grandad worked a couple of beddy whippet out of digging dogs. This was 30-40 years ago..he's passed away now so can't ask him but im sure he said the beddys were bred in the north east?..atb sesku 1 Quote Link to post
tank34 2,364 Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 My mate and me got two first cross grey/beddys from heart break fell kennels nearly twenty year ago, they were small [ 22in, 23in ] and not the quickest, but due to there great nose work they often put up game that they were never going to catch in a million years and never once did they open up. The one at 23in, my mates dog lined a whippet and all the pups we seen working from that litter were mute, we later found out the whippet they used screamed like a banshee on everything. The biggest dog from that litter went on to line a greyhound and a grey/bull and all the pups from those litters that wee seen run never made peep and I know that some of those pups went to the young team in Kilmarnock and were run at an early age. Some say it depends what you put them to but in my experience you use a very good mute digging beddy to start of your line Me and three or four guy on this site have just got pups from a line of grey/beddys going back 35 plus years, I think there roughly 3/8thbeddy 5/8thgrey I know the first cross dog that lined the 3/4grey 1/4beddy bitch, his sire is a beddy from a long line of digging dogs so am sure the guys will keep everybody up to date with any feed back about any yapping, and the question whether they do teeth or not me and my mate have two dog pups out of same litter,both cracking pups mate Quote Link to post
Moorside 642 Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 Anyone using the beddy x got any pics of the beddys used for breeding? Don't see many about other than the kc type..my wifes grandad worked a couple of beddy whippet out of digging dogs. This was 30-40 years ago..he's passed away now so can't ask him but im sure he said the beddys were bred in the north east?..atb sesku Think that Rillington strain came from that way, they were originally earthdogs. I know a lad who genuinely uses beddys for earthwork these he keeps have fell blood in the mix. I asked him if hed ever used his digging dogs on a whippet or greyhound and he said there too small for use in producing lurchers. Which I thinks a real shame cus most pure beddys that are used are either massive bushing dogs only or kc stuff 2 Quote Link to post
s.e.s.k.u 1,893 Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 Anyone using the beddy x got any pics of the beddys used for breeding? Don't see many about other than the kc type..my wifes grandad worked a couple of beddy whippet out of digging dogs. This was 30-40 years ago..he's passed away now so can't ask him but im sure he said the beddys were bred in the north east?..atb sesku Think that Rillington strain came from that way, they were originally earthdogs. I know a lad who genuinely uses beddys for earthwork these he keeps have fell blood in the mix. I asked him if hed ever used his digging dogs on a whippet or greyhound and he said there too small for use in producing lurchers. Which I thinks a real shame cus most pure beddys that are used are either massive bushing dogs only or kc stuff there doesn't seem to be that many beddys being dug to ..of course they will be out there but surely the earth dogs would be 1st choice for breeding than the bigger bushing type/kc? Just made me wonder where folk go nowadays for there beddy blood. Atb sesku Quote Link to post
keepitcovert 842 Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 (edited) Anyone using the beddy x got any pics of the beddys used for breeding? Don't see many about other than the kc type..my wifes grandad worked a couple of beddy whippet out of digging dogs. This was 30-40 years ago..he's passed away now so can't ask him but im sure he said the beddys were bred in the north east?..atb sesku Think that Rillington strain came from that way, they were originally earthdogs. I know a lad who genuinely uses beddys for earthwork these he keeps have fell blood in the mix. I asked him if hed ever used his digging dogs on a whippet or greyhound and he said there too small for use in producing lurchers. Which I thinks a real shame cus most pure beddys that are used are either massive bushing dogs only or kc stuff Rillington strain is the product of george newcombes dogs, rillington is a village near malton nth yorks were george once lived, originally the beddy was known as the rothberry fighting dog, and was said to have originally been bred by gypsies living in the rothberry forest area in the north east, little bit of info i thought you may like YIS KIC Edited December 4, 2014 by keepitcovert 2 Quote Link to post
s.e.s.k.u 1,893 Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 Lol @johnnymuddler Quote Link to post
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