Collie Greyhound

[FUJI 17,156]

The guy int pub told me that best thing about colic crosses is when after a few runs they seem to know your bag is getting heavy so pretend not to see bunnies in beam, and he is usually right

Seen a few men do similar whilst lamping and carrying their catch..not a collie at heel either haha

[shaaark 10,694]

The guy int pub told me that best thing about colic crosses is when after a few runs they seem to know your bag is getting heavy so pretend not to see bunnies in beam, and he is usually right

Think my missus is part collie, she can tell when my bag is getting full and acts accordingly too!

[nothernlite 18,076]

 

The guy int pub told me that best thing about colic crosses is when after a few runs they seem to know your bag is getting heavy so pretend not to see bunnies in beam, and he is usually right

 

Think my missus is part collie, she can tell when my bag is getting full and acts accordingly too!

does she not need to give you a fortnight's notice for it to react lol

[shaaark 10,694]

 

 

The guy int pub told me that best thing about colic crosses is when after a few runs they seem to know your bag is getting heavy so pretend not to see bunnies in beam, and he is usually right

Think my missus is part collie, she can tell when my bag is getting full and acts accordingly too!

does she not need to give you a fortnight's notice for it to react lol

 

Just a week

[redial 81]

If I may go off topic, when I started with dogs early 70's popular around this way was Grey x G - Shepherd but went out of vogue just as quickly as it started

did anyone have any experience of this cross.

[weasle 1,119]

 

 

the collie crosses I was talking about was run daylight, never lamped, Run on plough, seed fields, Tattie fields, and Moorland, and Ive run them on Hard frost,

with no problems, Back in those days, deerhound/grey was a common breed then, x that breed into a good collie cross, and it did not stop there, once you crossed with the deerhound cross you get dogs upto 28/29" when you had a good bitch out of all those crosses especially, a bitch with a broken coat or rough coat which was common the next cross, a Grew dog, grey/whippet, and that litter you were on the money for all edible, a good coat good feet, with pace and a hunting brain, Prey drive, then I screwed up I emigrated, and I lost all that good breeding, when I came back 10 years later things had moved on LAMPING,

and the saluki xs the Saluki x has great recovery from a hard run, and can run clever, good feet, eye sight, prey drive,, you have to learn to work with them

they are the aristocrats, of the lurcher world, oh they can do there job, but sometimes they try your patience to the limit, such as life, nothing wrong with a good ole collie x biddable, I think it has a lot to do with the man on the end of the Lead, thats the problem, and if you run any dog Long enough , hard enough, you will sicken them always keep your dog sweet, that dog what you keep dreaming about does not exist, you HAVE to PUT the WORK IN front of the dog,But also know when he or she has had enough, you cannot keep emptying the tank, because its going to run dry,

You can sicken any dog for sure but collie xs , can sicken there selves in my opinion.

 

true, my colliex Blaze was good on foxes as ive said on posts , but I think if doing a lot of foxes in a week's lamping or day time, he would have said enough. where as ive seen few good 1x pit x greys would do that amount of work no prob, the bullxs will take more stick long term than colliexs, that's the only difference I think . but any dog what ever the x will sicken in the end and some of the bullxs did have very powerful jaws to start with , so its dogs for jobs but Blaze my collie x grey did kill fair few foxes, so was happy enough with him

 

Wasnt just talking about fox`s, rabbits too.

One i had could fill a bag tonight go out sunday he wouldnt run the first must have been the way i was holding the lead

On another note if you want a dog that could catch rabbits and fox why do you have to choose collie or bull,surely plenty of other cross?beddie deerhound wheaton ect ect ect ect.

[shaaark 10,694]

If I may go off topic, when I started with dogs early 70's popular around this way was Grey x G - Shepherd but went out of vogue just as quickly as it started

did anyone have any experience of this cross.

I believe so, blackgreyound off here, bunnys another, and a few more, oh and not forgetting bird

Edited November 27, 2014 by shaaark

[trenchfoot 4,243]

 

The guy int pub told me that best thing about colic crosses is when after a few runs they seem to know your bag is getting heavy so pretend not to see bunnies in beam, and he is usually right

Think my missus is part collie, she can tell when my bag is getting full and acts accordingly too!

 

mine must be a bull x. Entered too early, looked the part. then went on to jack. She just a pet now

[foresterj 1,096]

There certainly does seem to be more kak talked about pastoral crosses than any other type.

[the trunk 2,859]

my brother breed 2 litters of first cross collies every one of them wouldnt do teeth also run at rabbits half hearted there 3 now waited until thwy were 2 near 3 to start av also seen aload of bull cross jack because people think because theres bull in it they should work av a dog with bull an collie in it got best of both worlds each breed is suited to different game

[the trunk 2,859]

 

my brother breed 2 litters of first cross collies every one of them wouldnt do teeth also run at rabbits half hearted there 3 now waited until thwy were 2 near 3 to start av also seen aload of bull cross jack because people think because theres bull in it they should work av a dog with bull an collie in it got best of both worlds each breed is suited to different game

this is what happens then people think their no good, your brother should of looked for someone with proven dogs and went from there atb at

makes me laugh this the greyhound was killing foxes and the collie dog worked cattle also killed foxes round holes an these proven dogs you say had to be bred the same way you get the boys that love collie cross an then you get boys like the bull cross simple as that they will also disagree .i have yet to see a first cross collie do the work of a bull cross but there out there some were but a bull cross wouldnt have the sense of a collie for all round work

[the trunk 2,859]

 

 

 

my brother breed 2 litters of first cross collies every one of them wouldnt do teeth also run at rabbits half hearted there 3 now waited until thwy were 2 near 3 to start av also seen aload of bull cross jack because people think because theres bull in it they should work av a dog with bull an collie in it got best of both worlds each breed is suited to different game

this is what happens then people think their no good, your brother should of looked for someone with proven dogs and went from there atb at

makes me laugh this the greyhound was killing foxes and the collie dog worked cattle also killed foxes round holes an these proven dogs you say had to be bred the same way you get the boys that love collie cross an then you get boys like the bull cross simple as that they will also disagree .i have yet to see a first cross collie do the work of a bull cross but there out there some were but a bull cross wouldnt have the sense of a collie for all round work

why wouldn't a bull cross have the sense I'm surprised you said that,my bull crosses were switched right on some of the cleverest dogs I seen, as for breeding I don't have the answer to that,I just believe in getting pups out of dogs which do the style of hunting your into and do it well atb at

av hunting bull cross lurchers most of my life there very head strong an only see whats in front of them collie cross pucks up alot quicker if the right one av yet to see a good first collie dog working that would suit me but when you bring both them togeather you get something special if they turn out there a better alround dog av seen this for myself

[beast 1,884]

i've run cur dogs for best part of 30 years now, and it has to be said that the owner does make an enormous difference to the dog. yes failures do occur, but have you ever wondered why most professional rabbiters use collie crosses? a cur dog is capable of so much more than just lamping, mine will ferret and lamp with the best of them, we used to take deer up to fallow size, most would catch hares ( not always with fair law, but even then some would put up a reasonable show), hunt up, catch feather, work to the gun in or out of water, any kind of terrain and be almost unbreakable, track shot deer, in fact evrything bar going to ground. a yard or two more pace and the first cross would be the supreme all rounder, but sadly a lot of the primitive qualities of the collie which are so important get lost in the 3/4 bred. i have never been a foxing man, but had one little 1st cross bitch who was dynamite and would have kept killing until she dropped, given the chance. i have seen cur dogs owned by others which were very good fox dogs, i think entering is the key, they are so bright that a single bad experience at the wrong time can put them off for life. but of course not all of them are interested. some people just cant get their head round the collie mindset, but if you understand them you wouldnt want anything else.

[shaaark 10,694]

i've run cur dogs for best part of 30 years now, and it has to be said that the owner does make an enormous difference to the dog. yes failures do occur, but have you ever wondered why most professional rabbiters use collie crosses? a cur dog is capable of so much more than just lamping, mine will ferret and lamp with the best of them, we used to take deer up to fallow size, most would catch hares ( not always with fair law, but even then some would put up a reasonable show), hunt up, catch feather, work to the gun in or out of water, any kind of terrain and be almost unbreakable, track shot deer, in fact evrything bar going to ground. a yard or two more pace and the first cross would be the supreme all rounder, but sadly a lot of the primitive qualities of the collie which are so important get lost in the 3/4 bred. i have never been a foxing man, but had one little 1st cross bitch who was dynamite and would have kept killing until she dropped, given the chance. i have seen cur dogs owned by others which were very good fox dogs, i think entering is the key, they are so bright that a single bad experience at the wrong time can put them off for life. but of course not all of them are interested. some people just cant get their head round the collie mindset, but if you understand them you wouldnt want anything else.

F**king top stuff!

[nothernlite 18,076]

There certainly does seem to be more kak talked about pastoral crosses than any other type.

think there is a lot of kak talked about most crosses on here its just what your use to running each to there own