lurcherman 887 13,260 Posted November 25, 2014 Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 Mine stands on.his back feet lol And even when.he dont he sees them from a great distance dont most ?? Ive been out with dogs that are terrible for spotting game then been with loads that spot very well 1 Quote Link to post
nothernlite 18,089 Posted November 25, 2014 Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 I'm a midget and own a deerhound so I'm at a disadvantage 5 Quote Link to post
mud 2,044 Posted November 25, 2014 Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 (edited) .............. Edited November 28, 2014 by mud 1 Quote Link to post
Tiercel 6,986 Posted November 25, 2014 Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 Just wondering how many have actually got down to a dogs eye level to see what they actually see? Not assuming that because they are between five and six feet up that the dog sees what they do? TC i agree what your saying if your lamping hilly fields.but if your lamping open flat land I'd say dog sees whats at end of lamp There is very little actual flat land anywhere, most is either concaved or convexed if it is concaved then the dog can spot just as well as you. However if it is convexed the dog can only see as far as his horizon exactly the same as you, only his horizon is limited because of the dogs height TC Quote Link to post
Tiercel 6,986 Posted November 25, 2014 Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 I'm a midget and own a deerhound so I'm at a disadvantage So does your dog see further than you? Perhaps you should swap roles? TC 1 Quote Link to post
nothernlite 18,089 Posted November 25, 2014 Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 I'm a midget and own a deerhound so I'm at a disadvantage Buy a saddle and it will increase the distance you can see guy in the pud said the exact same 1 Quote Link to post
Dewclaw69 484 Posted November 25, 2014 Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 the only reason i use a slip is that i'd prefer my dog to run the rabbits i pick. he's also young and keen as mustard. maybe when he's got a few seasons under his belt and settled into it i may try without. Quote Link to post
Tiercel 6,986 Posted November 25, 2014 Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 A few facts about training a dog to work off the lead. It takes time, and there will be accidents along the way. Over the years I have found it better to ignore the accidents and concentrate on the positives. I would not try and presume to try and tell you how to train your dogs, other than to say dogs pick up things quicker than you think. If you have never worked a dog off a slip before, you would not believe how much more pleasurable it is, no faffing around at gates or fences, both hands free, plus the added bonus that the dogs get to learn that when they are on the lead everything is out of bounds. The list of the benefits is endless. TC. Quote Link to post
RossM 8,121 Posted November 25, 2014 Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 Long and short of it both are tried and tested, there is no right and no wrong it's a preference. 1 Quote Link to post
Tiercel 6,986 Posted November 25, 2014 Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 Long and short of it both are tried and tested, there is no right and no wrong it's a preference. True without a doubt, I just know what I prefer having tried both. In fact I still have the only slip lead I bought back in 1977. I used it for about 6 months on my first lurcher and it has been hanging around since then. What a waste of £3. TC 1 Quote Link to post
2 old 2 run 60 Posted November 26, 2014 Report Share Posted November 26, 2014 Is it in good nick? I'll give you 2 quid for it Lost my piece of rope yesterday Quote Link to post
Dewclaw69 484 Posted November 26, 2014 Report Share Posted November 26, 2014 A few facts about training a dog to work off the lead. It takes time, and there will be accidents along the way. Over the years I have found it better to ignore the accidents and concentrate on the positives. I would not try and presume to try and tell you how to train your dogs, other than to say dogs pick up things quicker than you think. If you have never worked a dog off a slip before, you would not believe how much more pleasurable it is, no faffing around at gates or fences, both hands free, plus the added bonus that the dogs get to learn that when they are on the lead everything is out of bounds. The list of the benefits is endless. TC. i can appreciate that TC . just something i've never considered doing before. Quote Link to post
krawnden 1,036 Posted November 26, 2014 Report Share Posted November 26, 2014 Is the lamp on continuos like? Lamp on quick scan, general direction with dog in vicinity, get to position, lamp on, quick hiss, dog knows it's game on and it's on? No? That's exactly how I would imagine it to be in an ideal world. I'm just curious as to what happens when things don't go like clockwork, ie 2 rabbits seen, one a much better prospect than the other but dog takes off after the 'wrong' one. Or dog runs something that, for whatever reason, you don't really want it to run. Just flick the beam off? Or let things take their course? Quote Link to post
socks 32,253 Posted November 26, 2014 Report Share Posted November 26, 2014 Is the lamp on continuos like? Lamp on quick scan, general direction with dog in vicinity, get to position, lamp on, quick hiss, dog knows it's game on and it's on? No? That's exactly how I would imagine it to be in an ideal world. I'm just curious as to what happens when things don't go like clockwork, ie 2 rabbits seen, one a much better prospect than the other but dog takes off after the 'wrong' one. Or dog runs something that, for whatever reason, you don't really want it to run. Just flick the beam off? Or let things take their course? The scenarios you have quoted very rarely happen mate ... The dog has no idea you are putting the lamp on and by the time you have flicked it on and had a quick scan around the dog hasn't had time to focus on the beam and home in on what you have seen ... Obviously the type of lamper that takes ages looking around a field will be more susceptible to what you are mentioning but on the whole as I stated the beam is on swept the field you have clocked what you need to and the dog is none the wiser ........ 4 Quote Link to post
TOMO 26,681 Posted November 26, 2014 Report Share Posted November 26, 2014 Lads it's not rocket science,,,just let the dog off the slip,,,,and try it,,,it's not majic....... 5 Quote Link to post
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