Phil Lloyd 10,738 Posted November 25, 2014 Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 (edited) As the title says how many dog men use slip leads? I do and alot of people I have been out with do but also been out with men who dont. I myself prefer the slip don't no why I just do I like to feel the dog pull before the slip I think whether you have a lamping dog on a slip, or walking alongside you,.... free as a bird,.is like everything else in life,....it is a personal choice... Edited November 25, 2014 by Phil Lloyd 1 Quote Link to post
paulus 26 Posted November 25, 2014 Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 never use one when out on my own. but they can prevent avoidable accidents Quote Link to post
krawnden 1,036 Posted November 25, 2014 Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 i've always used a slip lead in the past, but planning to get my youngster going without. To those that don't use one - d'you give the dog the command to run? Or does the dog decide for itself? I start pups off on the slip,,,,and as there experience grows,,they kind of learn them selfs,,,,I do tend to give a comand,,I can't help myself,,,,but it's a kind of muffled hissed whisper if you know what I mean,,,and it's always the same two words day or night,,"git on"When I'm lamping and I'm sure most lads are the same,,I quickly cast the lamp over the area and make a mental note of where the bunnys are,,,usually with an experienced dog,,,they know too,,,then pick out your target... I think the important part of the dog training ,,,is the recal and walking at heel,,,I don't mean like one of these circus trained collies or poodles,,,but just walking near you,,,like they would on a walk where there's no game,,,just close by Think everyone's command is the same!!! Imagine shouting...... "Abracadabra?!?" As long as the dog is no more than 5-10 yards in front I'm happy with that, dog is always interested in the beam but unless I hiss them on or give lamp a wee shake then she's not expecting anything to be running. If that makes sense? So what does she do if, as you scan the field, you light up a runner? Just take off automatically, or wait for you to hiss her on? 1 Quote Link to post
RossM 8,121 Posted November 25, 2014 Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 i've always used a slip lead in the past, but planning to get my youngster going without. To those that don't use one - d'you give the dog the command to run? Or does the dog decide for itself? I start pups off on the slip,,,,and as there experience grows,,they kind of learn them selfs,,,,I do tend to give a comand,,I can't help myself,,,,but it's a kind of muffled hissed whisper if you know what I mean,,,and it's always the same two words day or night,,"git on"When I'm lamping and I'm sure most lads are the same,,I quickly cast the lamp over the area and make a mental note of where the bunnys are,,,usually with an experienced dog,,,they know too,,,then pick out your target... I think the important part of the dog training ,,,is the recal and walking at heel,,,I don't mean like one of these circus trained collies or poodles,,,but just walking near you,,,like they would on a walk where there's no game,,,just close by Think everyone's command is the same!!! Imagine shouting...... "Abracadabra?!?"As long as the dog is no more than 5-10 yards in front I'm happy with that, dog is always interested in the beam but unless I hiss them on or give lamp a wee shake then she's not expecting anything to be running. If that makes sense? So what does she do if, as you scan the field, you light up a runner? Just take off automatically, or wait for you to hiss her on? To be fair I hiss her to get her attention as soon as I've got something on the beam.... Quote Link to post
nothernlite 18,089 Posted November 25, 2014 Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 Does the dog not watch the beam when the lamp a on does it wait till you hiss for it to chase or would it go soon as it seen it with out the hiss? Quote Link to post
mud 2,044 Posted November 25, 2014 Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 (edited) ............... Edited November 28, 2014 by mud 2 Quote Link to post
Tiercel 6,986 Posted November 25, 2014 Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 There does seem to be some on this thread that think a dog can see the same in the beam as the person with the lamp. Unless you are right up on them, I would say 90% of the time the dog sees grass. TC 1 Quote Link to post
mud 2,044 Posted November 25, 2014 Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 (edited) .............. Edited November 28, 2014 by mud 1 Quote Link to post
weasle 1,119 Posted November 25, 2014 Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 Slip always for me,could control them on rabbits but dont just meet rabbits. Plus and this is just my mind,I see a rabbit,I choose to run it, i slip dog runs,A dog that will wait till being told to run must be close to saying oh that ones close to the hedge im not running that one? Quote Link to post
bullmastiff 615 Posted November 25, 2014 Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 With Tess she'll stay to heel as long as the rabbit doesn't start running. Have walked her pretty close to some squatters without her going before I've hissed. If it gets up and runs I'll hiss her on but to be fair she's usually already moving!! Roo had very little heel training but I just got to trust him off the slip. He wasn't the type to walk right next to you but would stay fairly close. Think this was one of the few vids I got of him before he died. Quote Link to post
nothernlite 18,089 Posted November 25, 2014 Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 I would say the same as mud all hilly ground I lamp plus heavy grazed fields where the rabbits stick out so a far as the dog not seeing 90% would need to be fecking blind lol 2 Quote Link to post
mud 2,044 Posted November 25, 2014 Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 (edited) ................ Edited November 28, 2014 by mud Quote Link to post
RossM 8,121 Posted November 25, 2014 Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 Is the lamp on continuos like? Lamp on quick scan, general direction with dog in vicinity, get to position, lamp on, quick hiss, dog knows it's game on and it's on? No? 1 Quote Link to post
Tiercel 6,986 Posted November 25, 2014 Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 Just wondering how many have actually got down to a dogs eye level to see what they actually see? Not assuming that because they are between five and six feet up that the dog sees what they do? TC Quote Link to post
mud 2,044 Posted November 25, 2014 Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 (edited) ................. Edited November 28, 2014 by mud Quote Link to post
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