terryd 8,601 Posted November 24, 2014 Report Share Posted November 24, 2014 I find it very a interesting topic. My pup is as keen as mustard with a lot of drive so the thought of getting him to put the brakes on when he knows there's some thing in front of him should be good. But he is on sick at the mo so during his rehab will be an ideal time to get a handle on him. I am aiming for next winter hopefully I notice the folks who do train off the lead do it across the board with all the dogs so I guess its doable with any hound with time Quote Link to post
lurcherman 887 13,260 Posted November 24, 2014 Report Share Posted November 24, 2014 Use one but dog will lamp to heel and go on command Quote Link to post
bullmastiff 615 Posted November 24, 2014 Report Share Posted November 24, 2014 Depends on what sort of area your in and what other animals are about. Not so bad on the dales where it's just rabbits but round my way your more likely to bump into Badgers than a rabbit. Hence the dog stays on a slip. Tess will happily work without a slip when it's just rabbits about and I'll hiss to send her down the beam. Quote Link to post
RossM 8,121 Posted November 24, 2014 Report Share Posted November 24, 2014 (edited) i've always used a slip lead in the past, but planning to get my youngster going without. To those that don't use one - d'you give the dog the command to run? Or does the dog decide for itself? I start pups off on the slip,,,,and as there experience grows,,they kind of learn them selfs,,,,I do tend to give a comand,,I can't help myself,,,,but it's a kind of muffled hissed whisper if you know what I mean,,,and it's always the same two words day or night,,"git on"When I'm lamping and I'm sure most lads are the same,,I quickly cast the lamp over the area and make a mental note of where the bunnys are,,,usually with an experienced dog,,,they know too,,,then pick out your target... I think the important part of the dog training ,,,is the recal and walking at heel,,,I don't mean like one of these circus trained collies or poodles,,,but just walking near you,,,like they would on a walk where there's no game,,,just close by Think everyone's command is the same!!! Imagine shouting...... "Abracadabra?!?" As long as the dog is no more than 5-10 yards in front I'm happy with that, dog is always interested in the beam but unless I hiss them on or give lamp a wee shake then she's not expecting anything to be running. If that makes sense? Edited November 24, 2014 by RossM Quote Link to post
the big chief 3,099 Posted November 24, 2014 Report Share Posted November 24, 2014 i always use one o n my dog as i am always lamping with a pal and his dog Quote Link to post
joemacca51 0 Posted November 24, 2014 Report Share Posted November 24, 2014 I have allways used a slip lead. Quote Link to post
shaaark 10,907 Posted November 25, 2014 Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 Guy down the pub told me if you need a lead your no good at training dogsyou're never out off that boozerOnly pop in at happy hour mate, the 2 for 1 meals are good quality Kin el, are you related to jerry *******attrick?! 1 Quote Link to post
nothernlite 18,089 Posted November 25, 2014 Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 So the lads that lamp there dogs of the slip can walk up to a squatter with there dog at heel then give the command and away it goes Or are there dogs away out in front? Quote Link to post
RossM 8,121 Posted November 25, 2014 Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 So the lads that lamp there dogs of the slip can walk up to a squatter with there dog at heel then give the command and away it goes Or are there dogs away out in front? To be fair mate, a dog with experience on the lamp shouldn't need walked right up on a squatter, it should be trusting you that there's something at the end of the beam and picking it out its clamp. 1 Quote Link to post
Tiercel 6,986 Posted November 25, 2014 Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 As Others have said, when on your own off lead. When in company on a full lead till it's their turn to run, no slip leads just a full lead or off lead. Slip leads lead to accidents. (pun intended) TC Genuine question, why do slip leads lead to accidents ? By the very nature of the lead, it is meant to let a dog loose with minimum fuss. One dog is coursing a rabbit and the rabbit runs back towards you, the one on the slip naturally wants to get in on the action and starts bouncing around it is then that slip leads can fail and lets the dog loose. If you have a full lead on the dog it is less likely to happen. TC Quote Link to post
TOMO 26,682 Posted November 25, 2014 Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 Depends on what sort of area your in and what other animals are about. Not so bad on the dales where it's just rabbits but round my way your more likely to bump into Badgers than a rabbit. Hence the dog stays on a slip. Tess will happily work without a slip when it's just rabbits about and I'll hiss to send her down the beam. I bump in to Billy's up on the dales from time to time,,,,but where I live here in Nottinghamshire is full of Billy's ,,,in fact there are active sets not 300 yard from my back door,,, I regular bump in to them on dusk walks,,,but after bumping in to them on regular basis,,the dogs soon learn not to feck around with them....but then my dogs are just rabbit dogs 2 Quote Link to post
Brigzy 1,298 Posted November 25, 2014 Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 TC, if you're talking about one of those "slip leads" with the spring clip release, then I agree with you, awful things ! But whats wrong with a slip thru' the collar, a bit of rope, or the simple Strong Stuff type ? Quote Link to post
trenchfoot 4,243 Posted November 25, 2014 Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 In the eyes of some in "authority" the fact that you are walking a dog on a slip, or having a slip lead in your possession is equivalent to going equipped. Quote Link to post
nothernlite 18,089 Posted November 25, 2014 Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 So the lads that lamp there dogs of the slip can walk up to a squatter with there dog at heel then give the command and away it goes Or are there dogs away out in front? To be fair mate, a dog with experience on the lamp shouldn't need walked right up on a squatter, it should be trusting you that there's something at the end of the beam and picking it out its clamp. can do the same with mine Ross but prefer the slip got more control Quote Link to post
Qbgrey 4,143 Posted November 25, 2014 Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 had a dog back before the ban,that didnt need a slip lead,but if ole red coat was running in to a call id need to hold him,or he would go to early. Quote Link to post
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