tandors 888 Posted November 27, 2014 Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 multi culturalism and tolerance are forced upon us, even what has been written on here could get the posters a knock on the door for being offensive, but who can i complain to when i am offended, like when the bbc puts out statements like lee rigby was killed by 2 fellow britains. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
desertbred 5,490 Posted November 27, 2014 Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 (edited) Muppit how can you have a Mono culture ?when so many Islamic nations retain their own identities and cultures just the same as white Christian countries and cultures. There is no such thing as classical Arabic Arabic script and spoken word are the same through out history just as Hebrew is constant ,The Qran was revealed in Arabic and has been translated into dozens of languages and Arabic has more meanings per word than English does so again you are down loading misinformation.You tell more lies than Crippin LOL. Look up the reason for the crusades you are wrong again also look how it was a Muslim Salaudhin Ayubi who saved the life of King Richard the 1st of England and had him freed from a French prison after he was confined their by his brother John you don't even know your own history and the treachery involved. The Qran outlines three steps of punishment for a woman the last of the three is is admonishment which would be akin to corpral punishment which the UK used on males females and children as recently as 30 years ago so again you are twisting facts into fiction. The Zorastarian religion in iran was a religion not a culture it was sun worship and Norause the beginning of Spring equinox of zorastarianism is still celebrated every year in Iran so wrong again muppet. I can go through every point you down load and drive a bus through them . The supreme authority is Islam is ALLAH not Muhammad so again clown you are wrong Muhammad was the last Prophet of Allah Islam means total submission to Allah you really get everything you down load wrong. Edited November 27, 2014 by desertbred Quote Link to post Share on other sites
desertbred 5,490 Posted November 27, 2014 Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 (edited) Socksyou have been in enough muslim countries you may have been part of the force in Iraq and Afghanistan I don't recall you people getting visa,s to come or being invited. So don't teach me about countries iI have spent 75 percent of my life in, half as a serving soldier . I don't support multiculturism or integration As for putting up with it, blame your government and fellow countrymen and do something about it instead of bleating like a sheep/ Edited November 27, 2014 by desertbred 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
desertbred 5,490 Posted November 27, 2014 Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 Socks straight forward question If a man irrespective of his race religion or culture comes to live in the uk as a resident legally here or as a citizen he observes the laws pays taxes should he be allowed to follow his own religion cultures and traditions if they are not illegal under British law , a honest answer please Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ragumup Posted November 27, 2014 Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 Religious ' part yes.... the culture of FGM, honour killings, multiple wives etc no the traditions of subjugating the kuffer no Quote Link to post Share on other sites
blackmaggie 3,376 Posted November 27, 2014 Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 i dont think people have issue with anyone following there beliefs but when you have muslims trying to enforce sharia or there beliefs on others then they have a problem with that Quote Link to post Share on other sites
delswal 3,819 Posted November 27, 2014 Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 Socksyou have been in enough muslim countries you may have been part of the force in Iraq and Afghanistan I don't recall you people getting visa,s to come or being invited. So don't teach me about countries iI have spent 75 percent of my life in, half as a serving soldier . I don't support multiculturism or integration As for putting up with it, blame your government and fellow countrymen and do something about it instead of bleating like a sheep/ DB for a educated man as you called yourself in earlier threads, you are beginning to sound like a hypocrite. You don't support multiculturalism or integration, then why move into another society if you do not wish to integrate with them? Was life so bad in the Iranian revolutionary guard you would swop countries to live out your days as a hypocrite along the sides of bleating sheep? Or do you merely integrate when the needs suit. Straight forward question 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tandors 888 Posted November 27, 2014 Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 slippery slope the west is on. just read that real madrid have removed the christian cross from their badge in order to gain a lucrative uae deal, i thought they were tolerant in the middle east? also watch a video on youtube called arabs hate blacks and see how it is only white countries who are expected to prop up the dregs ofthe world with a smile on our faces. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
desertbred 5,490 Posted November 27, 2014 Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 (edited) The government in the UK permitted the setting up of community courts which is something again that lots of Muslims did not request this is for the electorate to ask why ?. The enforcement of shariat law in a none muslim country is neither permitted or required. Iran is an Islamic republic and Shariat is the law of the land Pakistan also calls itself an Islamic republic it has shariat courts but the law that is practiced in criminal courts from magistrates up to the Supreme Court is the Pakistan penal code which is totally based on British law from the British raj. the shariat court only deals with things concerning Islamic injunctions and ensures that no existing or future laws are against Islamic teachings. so how can shariat be imposed here in a country with its own judicial and legal system the talk of shariat is scare mongering in order to hoodwink the people so 50 years time there will be no indigenous Brits what absolute tripe its survived thousands of years and will survive thousands more. Edited November 27, 2014 by desertbred Quote Link to post Share on other sites
desertbred 5,490 Posted November 27, 2014 Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 (edited) Delswal nothing hypocritical .my own mother is British from Northern ireland I was born muslim and and will remain muslim but why should I turn my back on my own mother? My father married her as a Christian woman and to this day she remains the same, " a Christian" and lives here she worked in the NHS for most of her working life . Her family are staunchly protestant to the extreme but I don't try to convert them to islam and they don't try to convert me to Christianity so integration and multi culturalism is not that an important topic for me it is something I don't need or want. If my children want it then it is a decision for them at an appropriate age my elder children don't even visit UK and have never wanted to. My youngest daughter wanted to come here so is here to study and hopefully qualify as a Barrister she will then return to Iran to study Shariat law then will hopefully be a human rights lawyer. She has friends of all nationalities and religions but she is a practising muslim. so where am I hypocritical I believe in freedom of choice not conformity for the sake of it or to behave in a certain way out of fear unlike a lot of people. Oh and I certainly wont see out my days here so it will be one less for you to be concerned about Edited November 27, 2014 by desertbred Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ragumup Posted November 27, 2014 Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 The evidence that's happening all-around doesn't corroborate with your stories ... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dare 1,103 Posted November 27, 2014 Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 Are women allowed than education? Always thought the Taliban was extremists and took the book literally. So would have thought it wasn't allowed. Not some sort of attack or anything I'm just wondering. For me I think religions just a political tool for people of power to use in order to get people kicking off. Lived in london and am young so know all sorts and plenty of Muslims. If you wanna call them Muslims as to be honest they drink gamble the lot. They would say they are Muslims though and get fed up reading stuff in the papers. That sort of makes em feel like its an us and them type thing. When like i say their what I'd call normal blokes to be honest. I don't have a problem with any religion or opinion its just it trying to be forced onto others I can't stand. Also don't like how so many come here for a better life yet get here and then moan and expect the country to change. If I had my way I'd give the nut cases an area of land and let em live how they want to and all the hate preachers can f**k off their too. As its going to be such an amazing place I'm sure well all look to it and want the same. Minute they try force others to live that way or a terrorist attack happens...well we gave you a chance...nuke. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
delswal 3,819 Posted November 27, 2014 Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 Delswal nothing hypocritical .my own mother is British from Northern island I was born muslim and am and will remain muslim but why should I turn my back on my own mother? My father married her as a Christian woman and to this day she remains the same a Christian and now lives here she worked in the NHS for most of her working life . Her family are staunchly protestant to the extreme but I don't try to convert them to islam and they don't try to convert me to Christianity so integration and multi culturalism is not that an important topic for me it is something I don't need or want. If my children want it then it is a decision for them at an appropriate age my elder children don't even visit UK and have never wanted to. My youngest daughter wanted to come here so is here to study and hopefully qualify as a Barrister she will then return to Iran to study Shariat law then will hopefully be a human rights lawyer. she has friends of all nationalities and religions but she is a practising muslim. so where am I hypocritical I believe in freedom of choice not conformity for the sake of it or to behave in a certain way out of fear unlike a lot of people. D.B I never mentioned christianity nor Islam, or converting anybody, your religion is your choice and your beliefs and if they bring you inner peace and happiness then good for you, but regardless of anybodies religion or beliefs that should not stop anybody from integrating into a society were they have chosen to live 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
desertbred 5,490 Posted November 27, 2014 Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 (edited) you people want to assimilate people not integrate change them to your ways just read the posts on here I have read in the last two day such as f**k them all of , dna test them and send them home don't want my kids in a school with foreigners I will leave this country it is f****d (incidently to go to a foreign country) Vote UKIP they will stop them coming , nuke all the rag heads the muzzies do I need to continue you told me I was being hypocritical I explained to you my position and why I don't think integration or multiculturism is right part and parcel of my reasons are religious so it doesn't matter if you didn't mention Christianity Islam or any thing else you asked me and I answered you but you appear to be dissatisfied with my response I am here for my Daughter some one just mentioned the Taliban and them being against female education trying to show islam is against female education yes Taliban are but they claim to follow islam yet it tells you to go even to china to gain knowledge. I am told by Rag u muppit I am doing Taqqiya because I am shia but he appears to quote all sunni text from his down loads ,all the terrorist groups like isis Taliban Al quaida are all sunni wahabi muslims following the Saudia brand of islam the regime that the society that you talk of integrating into supports. Why are there hundred thousand female muslim doctors , lawyers pharmacists scientists if islam forbids female education. One final point I go out with the dogs with plenty of lads of here we have dogs in common we have families and we have mutual respect for each other we discuss all kinds of things but integration or multi culturism never enters into the conversation we just live our lives to the best of our abilities and don't argue even though we are from such diverse backgrounds , respect and morality is much more important in my eyes than intergration or multiculturism these two things are a long long way down the road . Now I have finished on this particular topic. Edited November 27, 2014 by desertbred 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
delswal 3,819 Posted November 27, 2014 Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 you people want to assimilate people not integrate change them to your ways just read the posts on here I have read in the last two day such as f**k them all of , dna test them and send them home don't want my kids in a school with foreigners I will leave this country it is f****d (incidently to go to a foreign country) Vote UKIP they will stop them coming , nuke all the rag heads the muzzies do I need to continue you told me I was being hypocritical I explained to you my position and why I don't think integration or multiculturism is right part and parcel of my reasons are religious so it doesn't matter if you mentioned Christianity Islam or any thing else you asked me and I answered you but you appear to be dissatisfied with my response I am here for my Daughter some one just mentioned the Taliban and them being against female education trying to show islam is against female education yes Taliban are but they claim to follow islam yet it tells you to go even to china to gain knowledge. I am told by Rag u muppit I am doing Taqqiya because I am shia but he appears to quote all sunni text from his down loads ,all the terrorist groups like isis Taliban Al quaida are all sunni wahabi muslims following the Saudia brand of islam the regime that the society that you talk of integrating into supports. Why are there hundred thousand female muslim doctors , lawyers pharmacists scientists if islam forbids female education. One final point I go out with the dogs with plenty of lads of here we have dogs in common we have families and we have mutual respect for each other we discuss all kinds of things but integration or multi culturism never enters into the conversation we just live our lives to the best of our abilities and don't argue even though we are from such diverse backgrounds , respect and morality is much more important in my eyes than intergration or multiculturism these two things are a lon long way down the road . Now I have finished on this particular topic. I was not dissatisfied with your response , I made no mention of religion, I was merely trying to ascertain why you choose not to integrate, because if I was to emigrate to any other country one of the key factors in moving would be; could I integrate into their society, and don't judge everybody by other peoples posts DB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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