D Lloyd 2,790 Posted November 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2014 I think it all depends on the land you hunt and what else you might hunt too , the land you hunt is a challenge for any dog and you break them , plenty of bone not too fast and able to take the knocks.Average height.and able to put up with you trying to kill them lol I think the 'not too fast' bit is crucial if you want something for really rough ground. Also if really rough then I'd be wanting something no smaller than about 23 - 24" or else it'll probably often find itself unsighted. good points you make lads Quote Link to post
D Lloyd 2,790 Posted November 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2014 25 -26 inch good strong dog with good bone and strong feet,,fast but agile with it,,,and to quote Jim ,,,"bendy " breeds in the mix,,,,sal,and collie,,,ect,, You can't be far off with what you got Dave ,,,,that dog you had did the ton,,,,got to be hard to better that,,, now what you meen mate about sal and collie jest dont now weather to go for the biger dogs in my line or smaller as for caled he was very very cleaver he was like a rocket till he was about 2years old then ran realy steady if he was still with me i think he would of gone on for years up here.so you think try go for his size and stacher than tomo?cheers Quote Link to post
D Lloyd 2,790 Posted November 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2014 Chid...that's essentially what he already has ,and they do the job ,I'd probably look for a related dog lloydy, that caled looked some dog mate,plus you done the 100+ with him ,is there any if his brothers or sisters around ?maybe nice to double up on those genes , on a side note I've always thought about a oz cattle dog cross or stumpy tailed cattle dog cross one sister to caled that i now of a very good bitch got 30 and 40 louds of times but on land that is lamped to death and not masive numbers there.no brothers he was the only dog in the litter Quote Link to post
Chid 6,603 Posted November 21, 2014 Report Share Posted November 21, 2014 Chid...that's essentially what he already has ,and they do the job ,I'd probably look for a related dog lloydy, that caled looked some dog mate,plus you done the 100+ with him ,is there any if his brothers or sisters around ?maybe nice to double up on those genes , on a side note I've always thought about a oz cattle dog cross or stumpy tailed cattle dog cross one sister to caled that i now of a very good bitch got 30 and 40 louds of times but on land that is lamped to death and not masive numbers there.no brothers he was the only dog in the litter did you not put sp over the sister to caled? Quote Link to post
D Lloyd 2,790 Posted November 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2014 Chid...that's essentially what he already has ,and they do the job ,I'd probably look for a related dog lloydy, that caled looked some dog mate,plus you done the 100+ with him ,is there any if his brothers or sisters around ?maybe nice to double up on those genes , on a side note I've always thought about a oz cattle dog cross or stumpy tailed cattle dog cross one sister to caled that i now of a very good bitch got 30 and 40 louds of times but on land that is lamped to death and not masive numbers there.no brothers he was the only dog in the litter did you not put sp over the sister to caled? no not yet but thats jest one way im thinking about going. Quote Link to post
D Lloyd 2,790 Posted November 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2014 Chid...that's essentially what he already has ,and they do the job ,I'd probably look for a related dog lloydy, that caled looked some dog mate,plus you done the 100+ with him ,is there any if his brothers or sisters around ?maybe nice to double up on those genes , on a side note I've always thought about a oz cattle dog cross or stumpy tailed cattle dog cross one sister to caled that i now of a very good bitch got 30 and 40 louds of times but on land that is lamped to death and not masive numbers there.no brothers he was the only dog in the litter did you not put sp over the sister to caled? no not yet but thats jest one way im thinking about going. an other way im thinking about going is a bit risky with the merle but its full brother to sister with thees two 1 Quote Link to post
roybo 2,873 Posted November 21, 2014 Report Share Posted November 21, 2014 Chid...that's essentially what he already has ,and they do the job ,I'd probably look for a related dog lloydy, that caled looked some dog mate,plus you done the 100+ with him ,is there any if his brothers or sisters around ?maybe nice to double up on those genes , on a side note I've always thought about a oz cattle dog cross or stumpy tailed cattle dog cross one sister to caled that i now of a very good bitch got 30 and 40 louds of times but on land that is lamped to death and not masive numbers there.no brothers he was the only dog in the littermaybe see if you can persuade ,the owner to have a litter to sp. Or a suitable male?or maybe something like the picture 1 Quote Link to post
D Lloyd 2,790 Posted November 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2014 Chid...that's essentially what he already has ,and they do the job ,I'd probably look for a related dog lloydy, that caled looked some dog mate,plus you done the 100+ with him ,is there any if his brothers or sisters around ?maybe nice to double up on those genes , on a side note I've always thought about a oz cattle dog cross or stumpy tailed cattle dog cross one sister to caled that i now of a very good bitch got 30 and 40 louds of times but on land that is lamped to death and not masive numbers there.no brothers he was the only dog in the litter did you not put sp over the sister to caled? no not yet but thats jest one way im thinking about going. an other way im thinking about going is a bit risky with the merle but its full brother to sister with thees two or evan thees to dog is out of blacky the bitch is out of molly that was allso out of blacky mated to her litter brother hare was flushed to the gun Quote Link to post
D Lloyd 2,790 Posted November 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2014 Chid...that's essentially what he already has ,and they do the job ,I'd probably look for a related dog lloydy, that caled looked some dog mate,plus you done the 100+ with him ,is there any if his brothers or sisters around ?maybe nice to double up on those genes , on a side note I've always thought about a oz cattle dog cross or stumpy tailed cattle dog cross one sister to caled that i now of a very good bitch got 30 and 40 louds of times but on land that is lamped to death and not masive numbers there.no brothers he was the only dog in the littermaybe see if you can persuade ,the owner to have a litter to sp. Or a suitable male?or maybe something like the picture lol you getting one of them for your next trip up lol Quote Link to post
Chid 6,603 Posted November 21, 2014 Report Share Posted November 21, 2014 (edited) Chid...that's essentially what he already has ,and they do the job ,I'd probably look for a related dog lloydy,that caled looked some dog mate,plus you done the 100+ with him ,is there any if his brothers or sisters around ?maybe nice to double up on those genes ,on a side note I've always thought about a oz cattle dog cross or stumpy tailed cattle dog crossone sister to caled that i now of a very good bitch got 30 and 40 louds of times but on land that is lamped to death and not masive numbers there.no brothers he was the only dog in the litterdid you not put sp over the sister to caled? no not yet but thats jest one way im thinking about going. an other way im thinking about going is a bit risky with the merle but its full brother to sister with thees two sure only one of them look merle so it would be no riskier than a normal brother to sister mating Edited November 21, 2014 by chid21 Quote Link to post
dodger 2,765 Posted November 21, 2014 Report Share Posted November 21, 2014 Chid...that's essentially what he already has ,and they do the job ,I'd probably look for a related dog lloydy,that caled looked some dog mate,plus you done the 100+ with him ,is there any if his brothers or sisters around ?maybe nice to double up on those genes ,on a side note I've always thought about a oz cattle dog cross or stumpy tailed cattle dog crossGood shout on the cattle dogs there Roy very big hearted durable dogs they are could be well worth thinking about that David ; ) Also like the sound of gaffa David n he's related to your stuff ain't he ; ) Quote Link to post
CWN-HELA 228 Posted November 21, 2014 Report Share Posted November 21, 2014 Bitch just over 2years. Quote Link to post
D Lloyd 2,790 Posted November 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2014 Chid...that's essentially what he already has ,and they do the job ,I'd probably look for a related dog lloydy,that caled looked some dog mate,plus you done the 100+ with him ,is there any if his brothers or sisters around ?maybe nice to double up on those genes ,on a side note I've always thought about a oz cattle dog cross or stumpy tailed cattle dog crossone sister to caled that i now of a very good bitch got 30 and 40 louds of times but on land that is lamped to death and not masive numbers there.no brothers he was the only dog in the litterdid you not put sp over the sister to caled?no not yet but thats jest one way im thinking about going.an other way im thinking about going is a bit risky with the merle but its full brother to sister with thees two sure only one of them look merle so it would be no riskier than a normal brother to sister mating no the fawn has merle on his back hard to see Quote Link to post
Chid 6,603 Posted November 21, 2014 Report Share Posted November 21, 2014 Chid...that's essentially what he already has ,and they do the job ,I'd probably look for a related dog lloydy,that caled looked some dog mate,plus you done the 100+ with him ,is there any if his brothers or sisters around ?maybe nice to double up on those genes ,on a side note I've always thought about a oz cattle dog cross or stumpy tailed cattle dog cross one sister to caled that i now of a very good bitch got 30 and 40 louds of times but on land that is lamped to death and not masive numbers there.no brothers he was the only dog in the litter did you not put sp over the sister to caled? no not yet but thats jest one way im thinking about going.an other way im thinking about going is a bit risky with the merle but its full brother to sister with thees two sure only one of them look merle so it would be no riskier than a normal brother to sister mating no the fawn has merle on his back hard to seewell if you breed them together just keep any solid colours , cull the merles its only them what could be the risky ones Quote Link to post
roybo 2,873 Posted November 21, 2014 Report Share Posted November 21, 2014 Don't know an awful lot about merles but is it the double merles that need culling ? If you was to breed 2 merles? Quote Link to post
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