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Two months ago I would have said something completely different to what I am saying now. I contracted viral meningitis back then which has left me clinically depressed and on Citalopram tablets to try

When someone is depressed their motivation plummets   Its very difficult to deal with someone whos thoughts and feelings are horrid.   Those that are closest get the full wrath of this debilitatin

its a awfull thing to have got a mate going through a bad time at the moment i can only be there for him when he needs some one to talk to,but why do these doctors fill them with tablets that seem to

The tablets can and do help some people, so its not right to say don't take tablets, but you should look at what the active ingrediants are, prozac is just sodium flouride, also used as a rat poison, and calcifies your pineal gland, Hitler used large doses of it in the water of his prison camps to dumb down the inmates, and lots of governments, especially the US, flouridate the water for the same reason, its banned in lots of other countries.

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I think that's the crux of the problem

We have no freedoms and we have to work till we drop just to get by.

At the end of the day it's only Goverment and multinationals who benefit

If we just all had the balls to stick together for a few months and say enough is enough

If we just all withheld our council tax that would be enough

If we then just all said we downing tools as a Nation til VAT is scrapped .

That would be another step in the right direction.

It's give give give and it's just not worth it.

 

My doctor told me about 45% of his patients visited him with issues related to stress, some being physical symptoms but stress related, not just invisible "depression" The wife started grinding her teeth in her sleep, the dentist made her a gumshield and told her it was very common, he said modern living and all the stress it puts people under was the cause, it begs the question "is it worth it" i don't think so, so i don't get caught up in material things, i really don't care about "things" ill drop the tools and tell them to f**k off any time everybody else is ready lol.

 

I've lived with depression all my life, good and bad days/weeks/months, but its always there just under the surface, i think mines a bit more than just depression, maybe mild a personality disorder? Hard on my wife and kids sometimes, not that i do anything daft, i just don't do much at all, they missed out on a lot because i can't handle social things very well, i get anxious when i have to leave my bubble. I put a good face on it most of the time, ive had lots of responsibility and coped pretty well, but every day is a struggle more or less, wouldn't wish it on anybody. And i did get help a couple of times when things got bad, helped me short term, but i know there's no permanent cure for me, even if i had a fantastic life plenty of money...ect it wouldn't completely cure me, might even make it worse having to do more like holidays and such?

Reading that just sounded like me.

Depression comes in forms its not a personality disorder

but it is depression.

Yes mate its fcukin hard work and likd yourself been like ut fir years.

Don't matter if you have all the money in the world mate.

 

Just try and do the things that make You happy and try take the pills.

ive just been put on some more.

 

Its got to me that much that I had a stroke a few months ago.

Now I gotta try and get me head around that aswell as being diagnosed with degenerative spinal,hip bone disease.

Its fcukin hard at times.

 

Im now unemployable which is yet another kick in the bollox

so ive got myself a little aviary and bird room and spend most of the day with me birds and me little samsung tab.

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Mine wasn't clinical depression it was bought on by trying to do to much on my own.

 

Eventually something had to pop and it did.That was over ten year ago now.

 

One thing I can say is sharing the problem with like minded people is a part of the healing process

 

Its good to get the monkey off your back and out in the open.You tend to think that your on your own and helpless.

 

Obviously by reading these posts that isn't the case

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After breaking up with my ex what with all the court shitt to het access to my daughter and her being an evil Cnut :laugh: I ended up running at full energy for about six months. Couldn't sleep, eating was hard etc went to the Dr's after my cousin who is a mental health nurse pecked my head to go...... Dr diagnosed a nervous breakdown and tried to fill me with pills, which I said fuckoff to lol read up about it and set my own regime and within months was back to normal. My job can sometimes be really stressful for my colleagues who for the most part blow it out there and then whereas I seem to ride stress like a wave and then burn out after an accumallation usually after months of high level stress but I hide it really well.

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I think that's the crux of the problem

We have no freedoms and we have to work till we drop just to get by.

At the end of the day it's only Goverment and multinationals who benefit

If we just all had the balls to stick together for a few months and say enough is enough

If we just all withheld our council tax that would be enough

If we then just all said we downing tools as a Nation til VAT is scrapped .

That would be another step in the right direction.

 

It's give give give and it's just not worth it.

My doctor told me about 45% of his patients visited him with issues related to stress, some being physical symptoms but stress related, not just invisible "depression" The wife started grinding her teeth in her sleep, the dentist made her a gumshield and told her it was very common, he said modern living and all the stress it puts people under was the cause, it begs the question "is it worth it" i don't think so, so i don't get caught up in material things, i really don't care about "things" ill drop the tools and tell them to f**k off any time everybody else is ready lol.

 

I've lived with depression all my life, good and bad days/weeks/months, but its always there just under the surface, i think mines a bit more than just depression, maybe mild a personality disorder? Hard on my wife and kids sometimes, not that i do anything daft, i just don't do much at all, they missed out on a lot because i can't handle social things very well, i get anxious when i have to leave my bubble. I put a good face on it most of the time, ive had lots of responsibility and coped pretty well, but every day is a struggle more or less, wouldn't wish it on anybody. And i did get help a couple of times when things got bad, helped me short term, but i know there's no permanent cure for me, even if i had a fantastic life plenty of money...ect it wouldn't completely cure me, might even make it worse having to do more like holidays and such?

You just described me in the last part of your post. I can't do stuff like meals and holidays, it's been easier since we had the kids because I concentrate on them and it takes my mind off other stuff.
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I've lived with depression all my life, good and bad days/weeks/months, but its always there just under the surface, i think mines a bit more than just depression, maybe mild a personality disorder? Hard on my wife and kids sometimes, not that i do anything daft, i just don't do much at all, they missed out on a lot because i can't handle social things very well, i get anxious when i have to leave my bubble. I put a good face on it most of the time, ive had lots of responsibility and coped pretty well, but every day is a struggle more or less, wouldn't wish it on anybody. And i did get help a couple of times when things got bad, helped me short term, but i know there's no permanent cure for me, even if i had a fantastic life plenty of money...ect it wouldn't completely cure me, might even make it worse having to do more like holidays and such?

 

 

Good honest post thats what i thought real depression to be....something you cant just throw money at.............wish you the best.

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kids are good to be around,some times my kids are a release valve for me just to get home and see them after a hard day

Here Here jjm, if it wasnt for the welcoming smile and just being needed by your kids, little grandson just fills me with love. Loneliness must be just the worst thing.

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Im not feeling sorry for myself lads, just being honest about how it affects me. Ive got a lot in life, a good family, and a few good mates, im no basket case, crying into my pint lol, the opposite in fact, im always at the top of the list when anybodys in trouble, and im 50, my kids are adults and parents themselves now, ive got a lot, which can make it worse sometimes, because you feel shit and don't have a logical reason?

 

Best thing i ever had was some counselling, got it through the doc, i didn't think it would be any good tbh, but it was, the thing is your family and friends "know you" a councillor cant pre guess or judge you, and you can be dead honest, to be fair i had a bad run of luck losing family/friends and knew why i was down that time, but its worth a punt if you can get it, a couple of mates had it after i told them about it, and both said it helped a lot, and no, not all my mates are mad, just most of em, they all got dogs :laugh:

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