desertbred 5,490 Posted November 14, 2014 Report Share Posted November 14, 2014 (edited) you cannot compare an organised coursing meeting like the waterloo with open land coursing to many variables , Just as coursing hares in some parts of the country is a totally different experience to other parts.. Personally when a quarry is running for its life it will get a move on young quarry has a lot to learn if they survive but that flight instinct is there from birth. Just as the pursuit instinct in a predator is they just have to hone and practice the skills they are born with. Edited November 14, 2014 by desertbred 2 Quote Link to post
two crows 3,342 Posted November 14, 2014 Report Share Posted November 14, 2014 your dead right Wirral a good hare is a test for any dog. however greyhounds will not tell any one if a hare is any good or not .the odd freek crops up but most greyhounds don't have the stamina to test a hare. good ore bad at any time of day. and double handed running does not test a dog either . you don't see any boxing ore any of the skills a good dog will posses. sorry if I have gone off post . atb two crows. Quote Link to post
samba 534 Posted November 14, 2014 Report Share Posted November 14, 2014 once took a lad lamping up on middleham gallops with his daytime hare dog it was well bred did the job in the day but that 3nights lamping it couldn't catch one lol so think they run different day/night and it ran 15 at least lad was gutted lol this was 20yr ago 1 Quote Link to post
two crows 3,342 Posted November 14, 2014 Report Share Posted November 14, 2014 I have ran hares on lamp. that must be 20 years back ore more I cought plenty with good day dogs but missed lots two there not easy. atb two crows. Quote Link to post
buster gonads 862 Posted November 14, 2014 Report Share Posted November 14, 2014 A good hare is a test for any decent dog in the daytime no matter when, ask anyone that beat at the waterloo cup, those hare's were corralled into holding fields overnight and brought through steadily all morning into the coursing field to be run by national class greyhounds, I've stood on the bank and watched good dogs being made a fool of and with over 120 competitive runs catch only 6 or 7, the only times there would be more caught was when the fields were heavy and wet, conditions can play a big part in what's caught more so than when, WM I,v seen 90 runs with only 3 Hares caught up around Thirsk [Yorkshire Coursing Club], also, a cleaver Hare will turn a dog into a strong wind too, i watched one do it yesterday but i,v seen it many times, pound for pound the best running machine on earth, and imo the only true test of a running dog in this over-regulated land of ours. . 2 Quote Link to post
lurcherman 887 13,079 Posted November 14, 2014 Report Share Posted November 14, 2014 (edited) Well dont know what night time hares yous been running but i have a 20 inch collie whip grey who reguarly retreiving them after the hawks are done 3 his limit though to be fair have a very tired mutt next morning mind Edited November 14, 2014 by kev1987 1 Quote Link to post
Giro 2,648 Posted November 14, 2014 Report Share Posted November 14, 2014 (edited) I stick my neck on the line.. I caught double figures hares on the lamp often - more than once a week.. A lot ran double up but single as well.. The same dogs would blank or be lucky to catch the odd one daytime one on the same ground.. A lamped hare was easy - we made sure of that & stacked the odds in our favour.. I find it hard to believe daytimes dogs would struggle on the lamp.. For numbers maybe - I ain't seen many run but the ones i have had no problem at all.. I could see lamping dogs not getting one bend in on a daytime hare.. As for being full or not full, anything I have ever gutted day night or any time has had a belly full Edited November 14, 2014 by Giro 3 Quote Link to post
buster gonads 862 Posted November 14, 2014 Report Share Posted November 14, 2014 When i were younger [iam 56 now] lads that lamped Hares did so as their dogs couldnt catch day time, nowt wrong with that if your after one for the table though. 1 Quote Link to post
nothernlite 18,076 Posted November 14, 2014 Report Share Posted November 14, 2014 I stick my neck on the line.. I caught double figures hares on the lamp often - more than once a week.. A lot ran double up but single as well.. The same dogs would blank or be lucky to catch the odd one daytime one on the same ground.. A lamped hare was easy - we made sure of that & stacked the odds in our favour.. I find it hard to believe daytimes dogs would struggle on the lamp.. For numbers maybe - I ain't seen many run but the ones i have had no problem at all.. I could see lamping dogs not getting one bend in on a daytime hare.. As for being full or not full, anything I have ever gutted day night or any time has had a belly full agree 100% people just look for a excuse saying there just as hard at night lol Quote Link to post
shaaark 10,694 Posted November 14, 2014 Report Share Posted November 14, 2014 I stick my neck on the line.. I caught double figures hares on the lamp often - more than once a week.. A lot ran double up but single as well.. The same dogs would blank or be lucky to catch the odd one daytime one on the same ground.. A lamped hare was easy - we made sure of that & stacked the odds in our favour.. I find it hard to believe daytimes dogs would struggle on the lamp.. For numbers maybe - I ain't seen many run but the ones i have had no problem at all.. I could see lamping dogs not getting one bend in on a daytime hare.. As for being full or not full, anything I have ever gutted day night or any time has had a belly full agree 100% people just look for a excuse saying there just as hard at night lol Yeah, my dogs were all slow bags of shite lol. Funny mind, these same dogs caught plenty of daytime hares as well as lamped ones. I'll say it again, some areas lamped hares can be extremely dufficult to catch with any dog. And by the way, I never have and never will keep a slow dog Quote Link to post
Giro 2,648 Posted November 14, 2014 Report Share Posted November 14, 2014 (edited) Some are harder than others granted and if they knew the score they never jumped in the bag.. Daytime is dog against hare - night time the lamper aids the dog or should do.. few variables to consider but personally at night they were significantly easier to put to bed Edited November 14, 2014 by Giro 1 Quote Link to post
shaaark 10,694 Posted November 14, 2014 Report Share Posted November 14, 2014 Some are harder than others granted and if they knew the score they never jumped in the bag.. Daytime is dog against hare - night time the lamper adds the dog or should do.. few variables to consider but personally at night they were significantly easier to put to bed Yeah, not saying they are as hard as daytime hares in general, but plenty of areas around the country on the lamp they can be extremely hard to catch. But as you've pointed out, there are certain variables to be taken into consideration 1 Quote Link to post
nothernlite 18,076 Posted November 14, 2014 Report Share Posted November 14, 2014 Fact is hares are easier at night than they are during the day anywhere 2 Quote Link to post
shaaark 10,694 Posted November 14, 2014 Report Share Posted November 14, 2014 (edited) Fact is hares are easier at night than they are during the day anywhere Ok lol Edited November 14, 2014 by shaaark Quote Link to post
nothernlite 18,076 Posted November 14, 2014 Report Share Posted November 14, 2014 Lol atb Quote Link to post
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