brendy mc l 694 Posted November 11, 2014 Report Share Posted November 11, 2014 Yeah first light there ready to go and on thete toes Quote Link to post
nothernlite 18,076 Posted November 11, 2014 Report Share Posted November 11, 2014 think if anything running for its life its going to go the best it can being being it morning noon or night lol 3 Quote Link to post
Tiercel 6,986 Posted November 11, 2014 Report Share Posted November 11, 2014 think if anything running for its life its going to go the best it can being being it morning noon or night lol It may be doing the best it can with a full belly, but it will never be as quick as it would be on an empty one. TC Quote Link to post
nothernlite 18,076 Posted November 11, 2014 Report Share Posted November 11, 2014 think if anything running for its life its going to go the best it can being being it morning noon or night lol It may be doing the best it can with a full belly, but it will never be as quick as it would be on an empty one. TC true but just as crafty lol Quote Link to post
neil cooney 10,416 Posted November 11, 2014 Report Share Posted November 11, 2014 Funny that one Tiercel, but the lad who showed me how to lamp with a lurcher 30 years ago always reckoned that at 1 or 2 in the morning rabbits were furthest from home with a belly full of grass, hence they were easier to catch. So to answer the question now is, Is a hare first thing in the morning after being active recently but with a belly full of grass easier to catch than a hare that's been clapped all day but is empty ???? 6 of one and half a dozen of the other maybe. 3 Quote Link to post
nothernlite 18,076 Posted November 11, 2014 Report Share Posted November 11, 2014 Has anybody ever gutted a rabbit or hare and the stomachs been empty ? 3 Quote Link to post
zigzag dan 784 Posted November 11, 2014 Report Share Posted November 11, 2014 Some land I used to walk always gave us more runs at dusk than dawn in fact , hardly saw one first thing ! Quote Link to post
BRICKTOP 126 Posted November 11, 2014 Report Share Posted November 11, 2014 A hare will do what it has to to evade capture, regardless of time of day. . To do a hare justice and respect only way in my opinion is to race them daytime. Lamping is not a fair test for a dog at a kicked up hare . 2 Quote Link to post
neil cooney 10,416 Posted November 11, 2014 Report Share Posted November 11, 2014 Has anybody ever gutted a rabbit or hare and the stomachs been empty ? No because of regestion, I think it's called. Quote Link to post
nothernlite 18,076 Posted November 11, 2014 Report Share Posted November 11, 2014 Has anybody ever gutted a rabbit or hare and the stomachs been empty ? No because of regestion, I think it's called.well can they be full lol Quote Link to post
slip lead 862 Posted November 11, 2014 Report Share Posted November 11, 2014 A hare run in daylight, will run the same no matter what is in its belly or if it's morning,afternoon, or early evening. But a hare run at night is half the animal it is during the day, plenty of good Lamping dogs can take hare's on the lamp but really struggle daytime 2 Quote Link to post
two crows 3,342 Posted November 11, 2014 Report Share Posted November 11, 2014 I remember must be 40 years back a mates granddad telling us to go first light as they were easier to catch he was a traveler and a pot hunter not realy a courser . but he was right as I have noticed in my 40 odd years with saluki crosses. all the best two crows. 1 Quote Link to post
Tiercel 6,986 Posted November 11, 2014 Report Share Posted November 11, 2014 Funny that one Tiercel, but the lad who showed me how to lamp with a lurcher 30 years ago always reckoned that at 1 or 2 in the morning rabbits were furthest from home with a belly full of grass, hence they were easier to catch. So to answer the question now is, Is a hare first thing in the morning after being active recently but with a belly full of grass easier to catch than a hare that's been clapped all day but is empty ???? 6 of one and half a dozen of the other maybe. The thing with feeding rabbits it can vary from day to day, wind, rain, moon and many other factors can affect their feeding habits. Even after 50 years plus I have never really worked it out, I tend to give it my best guess, sometimes it works out sometimes it doesn't. But that said and rabbits that are out before dawn have on average been easier for the dog. As I stated I don't know a lot about hares, but I cannot see there being much difference. TC 1 Quote Link to post
TonyOrmy 128 Posted November 12, 2014 Report Share Posted November 12, 2014 I don't reckon it makes any dffrence apart from at the start of season when there is plenty and as green as the grass ,the dogs make easy work of it ,by December not so easy ,same as hares big difference they wont give the dog fair law that time of year there away ATB tony Quote Link to post
crorider 174 Posted November 13, 2014 Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 Off topic again but I think its just as unfair on the dog as it is the hare to run it in the lamp instead of daylight. Cos when the hare gets away its almost always through no fault of the dog. Always either outrun the beam, go over a brow or through a hedge. If you can keep them in the beam any half decent lurcher will stop a few without much bother. Its keeping them in the beams that's the hard part, not actually catching them. That's why my dogs got a better ratio in daylight Quote Link to post
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