Guest Frank Posted October 26, 2007 Report Share Posted October 26, 2007 (edited) After living here for the past 19 years, Ireland, i have come to the conclusion, that when i first came here, up untill the late 90's, their was some deadly good running dogs of all shapes and sizes. Over the last few years, this seems to declining somewhat.? Could be something to do with more money in the country, folks getting softer ect ect? Which has led to to many being bred that are not up to the mark? I have also seen, some very good dogs in the Uk. Who, in your opinions, have the best bred runners, is it the UK, here in Ireland, oz, new zealand, ect ect? Experinced folks need only reply. Please no silly arguments, just personall opinions and experinces. Does not matter what quarry ither, each have their purpose. Cheers. Edited October 26, 2007 by Frank Quote Link to post
TOMO 26,767 Posted October 26, 2007 Report Share Posted October 26, 2007 ITS A SIMPLE ANSWER REALY , ITS ENGLAND . WE HAVE THE HARDEST TO CATCH OF ALL QUARY . THE BROWN HARE. AND THE HARDEST AREA IN THE WORLD TO CATCH THEM THE FENS Quote Link to post
workindogz 0 Posted October 26, 2007 Report Share Posted October 26, 2007 England has been known for their running dogs for thousands of years we were trading them with the romans for goods but the last fifty years ours live have become to easy and the use of running dogs have declined dramaticaly, so now i think there wont be much in it around the world , but the few hard worked lurchers from long proven lines in the uk i would say would come out on top due to our large range of quarry here in the uk(rabbits and rats) . Quote Link to post
Guest Frank Posted October 26, 2007 Report Share Posted October 26, 2007 You could be right their TOMO? As my faith in good working dogs over here, is starting to dwindle and less someone can proove me rong? Mind you, i find the irish hare, very hard at times, they are only slightly smaller then the brown, folks say their the same as the blue hare, but their not. Quote Link to post
Irish Lurcher 1,013 Posted October 26, 2007 Report Share Posted October 26, 2007 Very good question Frank. As pointed out in a previous post some dogs are ran on the fens, not all UK dogs are run on the fens, so I really don’t think that this is a valid point that TOMO is making, if all the uk dogs were run on the fens and proven themselves then yes indeed there would be some outstanding dogs in the uk. In Ireland as you know we have some very small fields, compared to across the water, our dogs I feel could cope better in these conditions then say the uk dogs who are used to running the fens and much larger fields. So I think that its horse for courses. But good question. Quote Link to post
Guest Frank Posted October 26, 2007 Report Share Posted October 26, 2007 Thanks IL, that was a good answer and a very true one when it comes to the type of land we have over here. We need dogs that are up and at them in a split second, to get results like the one below. Quote Link to post
Irish Lurcher 1,013 Posted October 26, 2007 Report Share Posted October 26, 2007 Thats a cracking wee sulk you have there Frank. I think that any dog who can stay with a hare is a good un, and to catch it of course. Quote Link to post
Guest Frank Posted October 26, 2007 Report Share Posted October 26, 2007 Cheers IL. The blue whippet cross on the far right of that pic, cought that hare, she was doubled up with the brindle full bred whippet, bred by that fella in wexford. Quote Link to post
luke 2 Posted October 26, 2007 Report Share Posted October 26, 2007 ITS A SIMPLE ANSWER REALY , ITS ENGLAND . WE HAVE THE HARDEST TO CATCH OF ALL QUARY . THE BROWN HARE. AND THE HARDEST AREA IN THE WORLD TO CATCH THEM THE FENS seen a lot of fen dogs that would have been made to look stupid around my area horses for courses mate Quote Link to post
Guest Frank Posted October 26, 2007 Report Share Posted October 26, 2007 Cheers IL. The blue whippet cross on the far right of that pic, cought that hare, she was doubled up with the brindle full bred whippet, bred by that fella in wexford. On a foot note, the the blue bitch on the right of the pic i discribed avove, is the litter sister to my blue whippet that got poisoned below. Quote Link to post
shepp 2,285 Posted October 26, 2007 Report Share Posted October 26, 2007 She was a nice looking, strong working type Frank. Quote Link to post
Guest Frank Posted October 26, 2007 Report Share Posted October 26, 2007 She was indeed shepp, thanks. Quote Link to post
hairybull 3 Posted October 26, 2007 Report Share Posted October 26, 2007 Horses for courses- depends on what type of dog as to where the best ones are. I have a bitch that will take day and night rabbits, ferreting, cat/fox, and large fast game where in small paddocks a quick speed and brains are needed then in very large open areas where the game has a 300-500metre head start she can get up to them very quick and still have stamina left to kill. But yes, I thing people are getting softer and there are a lot of people breeding off track bitches and saying parents are solid workers. I've seen top racing greys back up to a corner in their pen because a rabbit was in there. I reckon Oz has some of the better larger running dogs that get tested hard and culled hard also. Quote Link to post
Mitch 0 Posted October 27, 2007 Report Share Posted October 27, 2007 Good question, we also have some very hard tough ground that the dogs run on. Im sure out dogs wouldnt do too well over there, and same with yours over here. Quote Link to post
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