socks 32,253 Posted November 6, 2014 Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 I like to feed a vegan diet as I don't believe dogs are really carnivores ........ 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nothernlite 18,076 Posted November 6, 2014 Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 Tattie peelings veg trimmings and the water out the tatties boil there pasta and raw this and that Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lurcherman 887 13,080 Posted November 6, 2014 Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 a onion everyday forced down there throut,,,Washed down with grape juice mushrooms advice works well Quote Link to post Share on other sites
snappeer 464 Posted November 6, 2014 Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 Tattie peelings veg trimmings and the water out the tatties boil there pasta and raw this and thatwhats tatti fatti Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nothernlite 18,076 Posted November 6, 2014 Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 Lenny your a poet and dont know it 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gaz_1989 9,539 Posted November 6, 2014 Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 Jesus christ theres some boring self righteous people on here, just do like d lloyd said the best meat etc you can afford. If you want to micro manage youre lurchers diet like its a f***ing million pound racehorse crack on Reckon my dog is faster than a million pound racehorse ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lurcherman 887 13,080 Posted November 6, 2014 Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 Blisteringly exhilirating Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jcm 2,327 Posted November 6, 2014 Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 Don't know where abouts you are in North East fell but I feed Raw chicken/minced carcasses, raw green tripe, raw minced red meat etc and all the above mentioned - fish, veg, raw egg, pasta, rice etc mixed with kibble... I get my raw food from Halls Tripe factory in Sunderland or you could try Durham Animal Feeds depending on how close you live although DAF do deliver but I prefer Halls tbh I live in peterlee 10 mins from durham and Sunderland how much you pay for your meat drop me a pm Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jcm 2,327 Posted November 6, 2014 Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 Don't know where abouts you are in North East fell but I feed Raw chicken/minced carcasses, raw green tripe, raw minced red meat etc and all the above mentioned - fish, veg, raw egg, pasta, rice etc mixed with kibble... I get my raw food from Halls Tripe factory in Sunderland or you could try Durham Animal Feeds depending on how close you live although DAF do deliver but I prefer Halls tbh I live in peterlee 10 mins from durham and Sunderland how much you pay for your meat drop me a pm Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tozer 385 Posted November 6, 2014 Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 Just to tag on this, I get cheap meat from the butchers, freeze it into 1/2 day sized batches and feed it to the dogs, it is everything from chicken carcasses, lamb/beef trimmings to pigs heats/offal, good stuff but as it comes from him (since I got the dogs and started buying meat there I my feeding has improved a bit as well ) I try to make sure it is handled as well as any meat I would eat myself. But I have found occasionally the dogs can seem a bit constipated, especially if the chicken carcasses are a bit lean. Does adding pasta tend to stop this a bit? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
zandy01 3,575 Posted November 6, 2014 Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 Usually dog being constipated or white (ish) sh1t is too much bone in their diet, try adding some veg - cabbage, broccoli, cauliflower and more meat than bone... JCM - you have pm fella... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gaz_1989 9,539 Posted November 6, 2014 Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 Blisteringly exhilirating You know the score. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BGD 6,436 Posted November 6, 2014 Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 Tripe mixed with a high quality puppy biscuit twice a day and plenty of raw meaty bones throughout the day is what all my young dogs get. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Moorside 642 Posted November 6, 2014 Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 Jesus christ theres some boring self righteous people on here, just do like d lloyd said the best meat etc you can afford. If you want to micro manage youre lurchers diet like its a f***ing million pound racehorse crack onReckon my dog is faster than a million pound racehorse ? Not with you on its back she aint lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sandymere 8,263 Posted November 7, 2014 Report Share Posted November 7, 2014 A quick reply to the perennial forum question “what’s the best food for my dog/pup?” posted. (http://www.thehuntinglife.com/forums/topic/327660-best-food-for-a-pat-pup/?hl=%2Bbest+%2Bfood&do=findComment&comment=3734684 ) This will usually be answered in a variety of ways depending on the preferences of the posters rather than any real evidence. One of the commonest themes will be raw meat based on the assumption it’s the natural diet of dogs. Any questions that posters raise as to balance will be countered by the naturalistic gambit whilst worries about bacterial contamination will be met with erroneous claims about dog’s stomachs being able to destroy all bacteria. (1 & 4 ) These will be backed up by anecdotal stories about pups thriving and adult’s undergoing miraculous improvements in condition! ( 2 ) Alas if only it was so simple meat is good food but it’s not a perfect diet on its own and meat that is heavily contaminated with bacteria, or even lightly contaminated with certain bacteria, is never going to be a healthy choice. Perhaps a better call would be to quality of ingredients rather than some appeal to nature or naturalistic fallacy ( 3 ) and within this meat has its place. So meat is a good basis and if cooked or taken from a good quality source is likely to carry little harmful bacteria so can be mixed with appropriate carbs/vegetable sources to create a home made balanced diet. Then there’s completes, in the main these give a reasonable balanced nutrition with very low bacterial contamination and can be used to create a diet that has been successfully used by millions for many years. Personally I walk the middle path using a complete along with meat, veg etc. Basically the idea of a “natural” diet for dogs is simplistic; their ancestors likely ate a variety of diets determined by whatever they could get dependent on where they lived, time of year etc, so it would be pretty difficult to feed as we don’t actually know what the ancestor of the dogs ate. All we have are vestigial remnants of wolves in the original areas that likely live very different lives from their ancestors. Plus the fact that today’s plants and animals have been drastically altered by selective breeding. Then arguments that they should eat what they evolved to eat are undercut by three facts: one they have continued to evolve since domestication (increased ability to utilize carbs is one of many examples), two they like their human counterparts have evolved to be adaptable and to thrive on a wide variety of dietary intakes; and lastly we evolved to have the survival advantage of intelligence and inventiveness to develop technology to improve our and so their access to food, cooking being a prime example. In other words, technology is “natural” for humans and so their domestic partners and eating in a variety of ways is natural too. If their and our ancestors had been less adaptable and if there was a single healthy diet, the human/dog partnership could not have spread to new continents or survived the multiple changes of lifestyle, environment and climate they have surmounted. So in conclusion science hasn’t found a single healthiest way to eat for man or dog, but does suggest there is no perfect diet rather that dogs and humans thrive on a variety of diets. Adaptability is the hallmark of dog and man as eaters so many diets are good, none perfect. There are a few basic principles such as improved performance when fed a mixture of the three food groups balanced to suit the individual’s lifestyle but in general using balanced amounts of decent ingredients, either home made or in the form of a decent complete, at appropriate intervals should do the job. Evidence (1) http://www.nature.com/news/1998/981015/full/news981015-6.html (2) http://www.whole-dog-journal.com/issues/17_9/features/Your-dog-and-the-placebo-effect_21039-1.html (3) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_nature (4) http://jmm.sgmjournals.org/content/55/9/1265.full jesus christ Not "Jesus Christ" but I do walk on water. Sorry words of more than one syllable and an answer of more than one sentence, should know it would be a challenge for some l 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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