shropshire mole 190 Posted November 5, 2014 Report Share Posted November 5, 2014 Hi, I am normally found on the pest control forums, but have a question on air pistols? Looking for an air pistol, to dispatch rats/squirels that have been trapped live. I have a .22 Air Arms air rifle which I use, but need a covert "keep in the bag" pistol ideally Would a pistol be sufficient for this job, have been told to put in pellet wrong way round, that way get a much more explosive punch? Any thoughts greatly read Cheers Chris 1 Quote Link to post
shergar 42 Posted November 5, 2014 Report Share Posted November 5, 2014 At work use a crossman co2 pistol in .22 for despatching rabbits caught in cage traps . But would put the pellet in the right way round use hollow points found it does a good job at really close range Quote Link to post
forest of dean redneck 11,809 Posted November 5, 2014 Report Share Posted November 5, 2014 That's what I was thinking when I asked in the trapping section,I was thinking of one of the Ratbuster pistols. Quote Link to post
Blackbriar 8,569 Posted November 5, 2014 Report Share Posted November 5, 2014 Agreed ! RWS Super H-point the right way round. Quote Link to post
ratbuster 808 Posted November 5, 2014 Report Share Posted November 5, 2014 I did a picture of " the other way round pellet " in the trapping section. But as this is the airgun section, I'll do it here as well Power wise I would use either a 22xx Crosman CO2 model ( cheap) , a HW45 / BSA 240 Magnum spring pistol (expensive), or a Brocock pneumatic( more expensive). These all come close to the UK max of 6 fpe These were shot from a distance of 7 meters in a piece of pine with a BSA Supersport .25 doing 10 fpe with 18 grain Norinco " Apache " pellets. (< 500 fps) Using a soft lead pellet " towr " will shown more expansion than using a RWS hollowpoint or similar pellet (been there, done it all ) 1 Quote Link to post
ratbuster 808 Posted November 5, 2014 Report Share Posted November 5, 2014 (edited) Another one (sideways) Penetration is half that of loading the pellet the right way in the barrel. Gives all its energy to the target, no over-penetration this way Edited November 5, 2014 by ratbuster Quote Link to post
shergar 42 Posted November 5, 2014 Report Share Posted November 5, 2014 (edited) the one I use at work is a Crossman 2240 think it was around £ use hollow points ( right way round) head shot at very close range have never needed a follow up shot to finish off , keep a note of how many shots you have had as there's no pressure gauge Edited November 5, 2014 by shergar Quote Link to post
shropshire mole 190 Posted November 5, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2014 (edited) Edited November 5, 2014 by shropshire mole Quote Link to post
Rez 4,961 Posted November 5, 2014 Report Share Posted November 5, 2014 Erm. I've come to this post late, but what's wrong with breaking the neck the traditional way? Holding back legs and pull on the head/top of neck area downwards. At least you know the rabbit is dead so to speak, it can be felt breaking. 1 Quote Link to post
jamesS410 106 Posted November 5, 2014 Report Share Posted November 5, 2014 Erm. I've come to this post late, but what's wrong with breaking the neck the traditional way? Holding back legs and pull on the head/top of neck area downwards. At least you know the rabbit is dead so to speak, it can be felt breaking. You're a braver man than me rez if you want to stick your hand in a cage trap to despatch a rat or squirrel as per the op 5 Quote Link to post
Rez 4,961 Posted November 5, 2014 Report Share Posted November 5, 2014 Arrrhhhh. Apologies, I thought the topic was about rabbits. BSA 240 Magnum then. If ya can get one. Quote Link to post
shergar 42 Posted November 5, 2014 Report Share Posted November 5, 2014 Not everyone where I work who keep an eye on traps feel comfortable dispatching rabbits with there bare hands so to speak and like James says there's no way I am sticking my hand into a cage trap with a angry rat inside . Caught a stoat in one the other day and that was bad enough trying to get that nasty little shite out. Quote Link to post
shep41 31 Posted November 6, 2014 Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 I used to use a Webley Nemesis 22 for cage trapped rats only one shot needed. I don't use cage traps now as I only shoot on my property so I gave traps and Webley away. Quote Link to post
Coypu Hunter 486 Posted November 7, 2014 Report Share Posted November 7, 2014 For mice, moles and rats, I use an Umarex Beretta .177 BB gun (CO2). For larger pests, I use a Crosman 2240 .22 or my Crosman 357 .177 (also CO2 pistols). They're more than enough to despatch trapped coypus, which have a much thicker skull than a fox. You'll get overpenetration with BBs or domed pellets on smaller quarry, but I use an old tin of Walther hollowpoints in .22, and Crow Magnums in .177 -- hollowpoints don't normally come out the other side. I use domed pellets on coypus to penetrate the thick skull, but don't get any overpenetration. Quote Link to post
redial 81 Posted November 7, 2014 Report Share Posted November 7, 2014 These days carrying a pistol is asking for problems if the wrong person sees you. When I had a lurcher, I would take the trap to a open area and release what ever from the trap. Quote Link to post
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