Help Please

[Simoman 110]

Hi Guys I'm moving this weekend (fingers crossed) and I'm getting a delivery of concrete (1.7 sq metres) to build a base 18x10 for three kennels. This will be the first time as my current set-up is on slabs with a soak away and I want to install drains and do a good job. Could anyone please provide me with some advice and if possible some photos of the base and drainage, I'm putting cabins outside the runs but I'm struggling with "seeing" the base and putting in the drains.

 

Any help and photos would be greatly appreciated and thanks to Elisderyn for his help

 

Also to add I know a few kennel building threads have been posted over the last few years but I can't find them due to my computer skills so if anyone can posts a link to some with plenty of photos that would be lovely

[Ricky-N.p.p 0]

havnt read this thread mate so dont know how hlpfull it will be.

 

http://www.thehuntinglife.com/forums/index...29784&st=15

 

heres another

http://www.thehuntinglife.com/forums/index...ans+for+kennels

 

hope it helps mate

[Simoman 110]

Thanks Ricky, never ordered concrete before and its looks like the concrete is around £250...........

[fish 148]

5 i have just put up

[Guest SJM]

I'll post a pic of mine later on, I built one last year and I went way OTT with the thickness you could put a fecking garage on it, its about 6" thick built my final kennel (ran out of room) a couple of months ago and its a better thickness, about 3" We just made a wooden frame with a bit of a slope down to the drain that was allready there and then used a board to scree it. We didnt have a mixer for the second one so 3 of us mixed it by hand, I filled the barrows with the granite mix and poured the water and my 2 mates did the shovelling and mixing, it took us about 3 hours to do an 8 x 5 square

 

PS cracking kennels Fish

[wink hound 0]

warning very bad diagram coming up.................. but this is the best system ive ever had.

 

 

 

basically all the concrete is in red.

the kennels slope to a walk way wich has a center gully, this then slopes to the colllection box, shown from above in the bottom pic and x-section in the top pic. this then goes straight into the main drain. (the blue bits being the open gully) the reasons.

 

. a gully outside the kennels measn all piss is carried away from the actual kennel.

.an open gully makes it very easy to clean and swill.

.the open box idea means you simply swill down and pick up all the crap from one places, most going down the drain but the stuff that potentially blocks drains can be collected.

.an open gully outside the kennels means that extending the kennels at a later date is alot easier to achive. as ive proved its very versitle, mine even has a step in it.

plus having a concrete area outside the runs keeps everything alot cleaner and provides a place for a big trough, by far the best tool for cleaning runs.

 

once again i apolagies for the shit pics but hope the idea helps. drop me a pm if you want anymore info mate

 

wink

[new2hunting 0]

nice kennels fish they must of cost alot all the best

[Simoman 110]

Many thanks to all for the replies. I have decided that i'm going to hire a mixer and do it myself, one problem is the garden slopes away from the manhole, also I've been told that the manhole may be surrounded by three concrete rings? If so this could prove fun when fitting the drains. Millet, I've decided to reduce the size of the base from 18x10 to 7 x12 as I will site the cabins outside the runs on slabs, I think it calculates to 1.1 sq metres of concrete. We had money saved for a new dining room table and stuff for the new house but i've transfered it to essential works budget The advice and photos have been great please keep them coming

[J Darcy 5,871]

Very nice kennel set-up there fish.

[T78 4]

i lay drives and drainage etc for a living and for dog runs 3" of stone(whackered well)and the same of concrete will be adequete.ive put runs up for two mates(plus my own) yrs ago and no problems whatsoever. what are your measurements in? metres or yds?/ft?

[Simoman 110]

The base is in feet and 4inches deep.

[T78 4]

7'x12' at 4",you'll only need .75 of a cube mate,shouldnt be that dear and would save a lot of sweat!lol

[Guest alastair]

asumming the base is 4.5mx4 metres at 100 mm thick you need 1.8 cubic metres of concrete.if buying ballast and mix it yourself you doudle it so 1.8 x 2 =3.6 tons of ballast aprox and about 20 bags of cement.dont bother making the connection at the man hole ,dig back and find pipe ,cut it and put in small plastic man hole and take the feed to the kennel off that,if its a foul sewer (shit) the smell will come up the pipe and come out of kennel,so you need a back inlet gulley (same as a sink or toilet always got water in to stop smell) you asked you got

[HBG 350]

put the drain at the back of the pen then you dont have to go inside the pen to wash it out,i just tip a bucket of water/bleach in from the gate outside and it washes all away to the drain,and dont put it in the middle of the floor has you'll chasing hair and stuff about with the hosepipe for ages,good luck

[Simoman 110]

Thanks guys, spent yesterday putting down the concrete base, feel like a ninety year old this morning after wheelbarowing 2 tonnes of ballast and 13 cement bags. The base was finished and cost around £150 including hire of a cement mixer and wood for the concrete edging. The cabins have cost more, I don't have time to build them so they are £150 each. I'll stick some pictures up when its all finished, the only dwon side was/is the drainage, its impossible with the lie of the land and position of the base to run the drain to the mahole so i'm digging a four foot deep soak away and filing it with rubble before concreting the cover. Not ideal but their is no way around it, all solidswill be picked up anyway and its only for rinsing and disinfecting.