mad4it 695 Posted October 21, 2014 Report Share Posted October 21, 2014 thank you gnipper so have I that another reason my I got a pup out of Mr Joans Quote Link to post
Country Joe 1,411 Posted October 21, 2014 Report Share Posted October 21, 2014 Regarding worker to worker, over the years ive seen some decent first crosses, and 3/4 crosses. These were all bred from leggy hill working Collies, that worked Sheep and Cattle, not any type of game. And the Greyhound Bitches came from the local flapping track. 2 Quote Link to post
shaaark 10,973 Posted October 21, 2014 Report Share Posted October 21, 2014 Regarding worker to worker, over the years ive seen some decent first crosses, and 3/4 crosses. These were all bred from leggy hill working Collies, that worked Sheep and Cattle, not any type of game. And the Greyhound Bitches came from the local flapping track. That's partly my point, there are plenty of very good 1st x's of ALL types bred from parents which have never seen any live game, never mind been worked! Quote Link to post
Anthony121184 26 Posted October 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2014 ive just got my self a Hancock lurcher bitch puppy her sire is mr Joans, I know I wont be working her until next season but I am looking forward to training her as you only get out what you put in, I got a hancocks as I wanted a genuine collie cross not a hotch pocth one, she will be used for lamping, ferreting. I must have a litter brother to your pup.good luck with her, I can't wait till next season. Let me know how she turns out. Quote Link to post
Ronisillah 26 Posted October 21, 2014 Report Share Posted October 21, 2014 A have also got a collie grey x deer grey parents not workers just house dogs and my god he goes one of best dog I have owned so far. So worker to worker I think means nothing. plus bout the best £75 i have ever spent, cheap as chips but totally earns his keep. Quote Link to post
s.e.s.k.u 1,893 Posted October 21, 2014 Report Share Posted October 21, 2014 Ron im not sure too many on here would agree with that statement. .worker to worker means nothing? Of course it does... atb sesku Quote Link to post
Ronisillah 26 Posted October 21, 2014 Report Share Posted October 21, 2014 Well it obv does and doesn't everyone thinks parents have to work for it to work load of me arse Quote Link to post
Ronisillah 26 Posted October 21, 2014 Report Share Posted October 21, 2014 Don't get me wrong some coursing pups Goin for big money, why? Becsuse it parents work or its from good stuff yet that can bring a nice outcome but some of the best dogs I or some people will experience are not from great parental but turn out brill? How yer telling me that am wrong sesku?? Quote Link to post
s.e.s.k.u 1,893 Posted October 21, 2014 Report Share Posted October 21, 2014 Don't get me wrong some coursing pups Goin for big money, why? Becsuse it parents work or its from good stuff yet that can bring a nice outcome but some of the best dogs I or some people will experience are not from great parental but turn out brill? How yer telling me that am wrong sesku??im not saying non workers won't produce a good en. .but me thinks breeding worker to worker you increase your chances..I've had a dog from Hancock...a bad accident meant he never reached his potential...im not knocking his dogs,I like collie x..but to say worker to worker don't mean nothing? That's what I disagree with. .atb sesku 2 Quote Link to post
Ronisillah 26 Posted October 21, 2014 Report Share Posted October 21, 2014 Each to are own Quote Link to post
Ronisillah 26 Posted October 21, 2014 Report Share Posted October 21, 2014 A see what yer saying mate but it works both ways. Quote Link to post
Ronisillah 26 Posted October 21, 2014 Report Share Posted October 21, 2014 That's not the case saying I WOULDNT have one cause I would my answer was like u said instinct being a first. And my first ever lurcher was from no background but stood out a lot I tryed it to see would it work knowing how his parents were and family pets, and yes It did, so swings round rounds Quote Link to post
Ronisillah 26 Posted October 21, 2014 Report Share Posted October 21, 2014 A dogs a dog end of the day could be the best could be the worst. A broken leg or injury no matter how good chances are it's finished just one them things. Quote Link to post
jeemes 4,596 Posted October 21, 2014 Report Share Posted October 21, 2014 worker to worker. That cannot happen at the Hancock kennel. It used to be a chicken farm until Edwina Curry shut it down so farmer Hancock turned to farming dogs..Its that simple. Worker to worker means feck all, apart from the fact that both parents were worked. It doesn't follow that all the pups will, or even be suitable for work. Plenty of working/coursing/racing champions etc in both dogs and horses, bred from parents which have never worked, coursed or raced prove it If you just want a few rabbits and you just buy in all your dogs thats fine,but if you want the line to go on then you need to get the best rootstock from the beginning,not a quick fix from the lurcher supermarket (hancocks) Theres a dog on here owned by BIRD I think. Thats a proper collie/greyhound bred by a proper breeder who I think might be COLLIE JOHN but not sure. If I was looking for a Collie cross again,thats the type i would be after.. 1 Quote Link to post
Rake aboot 4,936 Posted October 21, 2014 Report Share Posted October 21, 2014 So you wouldn`t buy a Hancock, but you`d quite happily big up another dog you know nothing about, whether It`s any good at working or who bred it,..?? 3 Quote Link to post
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